Post your system spec's... [Archive]

asphix20

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

GNX, you should put some plexiglass behind your cutout. Maybe tinted, or colord plexiglass. A red plexiglass would be nice to keep with your color scheme, but being able to see all the complications behind such a detailed cutout makes it distracting. It looks sweet when the lights are out and you can see your lighting, but if you put some red colored plexiglass it would look cool always <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

GNXtreme

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I do have clear plexi behind it.  And it took me forever to do the cutout...with dremel and jigsaw.  I am looking for a plasma cutter for some upcoming mods to my other system.  BTW...thanks for all the cudos...I did work very hard to make it look good.

Juan

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Here's my system.

Max Power

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Umm, heres mine *bows down to you guyses great specs* I didn't include some stuff, but most of the other stuff is acer... I think....

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Why? I don't know. I was just curious on what you guys have... Here's my home machine AthlonXP 2000+ Swiftech MC462A with stock Sanyo Denki 53 CFM Fan Abit KR7A-RAID 1 GB PC2100 DDR RAM 2x 80 GB Maxtor D740X 12x Toshiba DVD-ROM 16x10x40 Yamaha CD-RW Retail ATi Radeon 8500 64MB ATi TV Wonder Realtek 10/100 NIC SB Live! Platinum 5.1 Lian Li PC-70 Enermax 550W PSU Viewsonic P810 That's my badass... Of course I have a whole crap load of other parts (ie. GF4 Ti4600, 8K3A+, 8KHA+, etc) but they're mainly for testing. So what do you guys use?

CHE

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

That's pretty much it in my siggy!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Got a 17" KDS monitor, I like 'em big and cheap and crisp <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> I have three other machines but they are for work and not really worth mentioning. You have a nice system Colin!!! Must be expensive to stay on the cutting edge like that <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Haha! Yeah it costs me too much... Damn, almost had a heart attack when I did my taxes! Still it's my hobby so it's ok. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> Here's how my home "lab" looks like... My main rig... <img src="http://colin-s.50megs.com/Mvc-439f.jpg"> and my test machine... <img src="http://colin-s.50megs.com/Mvc-437f.jpg"> Unfortunately my Sony 17" died a few weeks ago, I just replaced it with a 19" KDS. That's a pretty sweet monitor I must say, excellent value!

CHE

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I'm gonna cry <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> Just kidding <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> I have the same Logitech mouse, same color and all. Linksys, a man after my own heart, cheap and easy and reliable (no jokes please <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> ) You drink soda and coffee both? You guys are going to drive me to pull my credit card...I'm trying really hard to stave off spending for additional performance I don't need...but my evil side realizes that about every other week I have to run a few models that take several hours, and if I could cut that time in half it would be worth any price, right?!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

That Logitech optical is a great gaming mouse! Man, I must have had that linksys router for like 2 years now, it sure is solid. I'm not a coffee guy. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> I get my energy from good ole Coke. Hehe... Give in to the dark side... You know you want to! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0>

frustrated_teccy

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

LOL... Colin, that's gotta be a basement room right? Cheesy wood paneling just like mine... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> for the record... Thunderbird 1gig at anywhere from stock to 1.4 ghz (Colin, it won't do 1.5 for me. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif"border=0> ) MSI KT266A board, no raid no usb 2.0 blah... 256 MB Apacer DDR RAM MSI Geforce2 MX 32mb(soon to be replaced since I bought Morrowind...) oem SB Audigy hacked up promise card, used to be ata/66 controller, now raid buncha hard drives = +/- 90 gigs aopen 12/32 burner assorted NICs big ugly generic full tower hacked up, windowed and painted silver. Force feedback headphones.. YAY! that's it...

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

frustrated_teccy what type of cooling are you using? That chip does up to 1.53 GHz no problems! Have you upped the VCore to 1.85V? So any word on a videocard?

revvy

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

In addition to what's below, my rig consists of: 19" Samsung SyncMaster 900NF Macronix 10/100 NIC Inwin S500 MS Internet Keyboard Pro MS Intellimouse Explorer 2.0A Cambridge FPS 1000 Speakers Logitech WingMan RumblePad Epson Stylus Color 880 NuffSaid.. =)

revvy

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

hey Colin, I would think that you'd have a GF4 Ti4600 in your main system to achieve those insane 3DMark 2001 scores?

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Nice man! I love the red interior of your case, it looks pretty sweet! I love case modding myself, hacked up my old Inwin Q500, but I'm kinda scared to cut my Lian Li PC70... Ya, I'm a wuss. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0> I tried the WPCREDIT tweak myself but I found I had stability problems... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif"border=0>

CHE

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Damn, Perlys, I'm getting jealous <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> I don't know if I can control the urge to buy new hardware much longer <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Perlys that's a nice system ya got there! =) Are you an overclocker? The KG7 is one of the best overclocking boards there is. Wha tgames do you play?

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Haha... You sound content with your system. I just hope you don't develop a taste for more extreme speed it can be very costly! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> I use to play CS a lot but I find there are too many cheaters now... It kinda makes me sick. Personally I play a lot of RTCW, I like the speed! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

CygnusX1

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

ok...here's my baby...<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> main rig is the silver one...aluminum global win case..in constant disarray...when together holds system in sig complete with neons...case on top of box is a nice enermax case i have to review..will house my current system while i mod the silver case to accept the h2o...the other two boxes are a system i am building for some one, and another case for payment of building his system... <img src="http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dannyyyz/case_mod/baybus%20018%20(Small).jpg"> where i do 99% of my work... <img src="http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dannyyyz/case_mod/baybus%20019%20(Small).jpg"> where the second monitor resides...usually where the site work gets done... <img src="http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dannyyyz/case_mod/baybus%20020%20(Small).jpg"> you gotta have the amd poster...<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dannyyyz/case_mod/baybus%20021%20(Small).jpg">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

HOLY ************************! Wow, your computer "lab" is way bigger then mine! How many computers do you have down there? Tha'ts a nice case, the GlobalWin. Hmm, I shoudl try and get one for review! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> So that's your water kit eh? I'm thinking of building my own chiller probably next week, I'll probably need your help! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> I need a better image hoster, but I'll post my rig again so you can check it out. <img src="http://colin-s.50megs.com/Mvc-439f.jpg"> <img src="http://colin-s.50megs.com/Mvc-437f.jpg">

CygnusX1

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< HOLY ************************! Wow, your computer "lab" is way bigger then mine! How many computers do you have down there? >> my 'lab' is in my garage...my wife kicked me out of the house when i started getting addicted to hardware...in the lab, there are 3 fully functioning pc's, and a crapload of parts ranging from old 486's up to current hardware......i gotta get rid of some of this stuff...<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> BTW..looks like your not doing too bad in the hardware dept...loli wish i had a couple of gf3 sitting on top of my bench...<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> << Tha'ts a nice case, the GlobalWin. Hmm, I shoudl try and get one for review! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> >> I like the globalwin, but would rather have an all aluminum lian li...the global win has the plastic bezel in (on?) front of it... << So that's your water kit eh? I'm thinking of building my own chiller probably next week, I'll probably need your help! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> >> yeah that's it in constant states of assembly...<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0"> should be going in this week sometime..finally getting the 2x120's (delta's) that i have been waiting for for the rad...i hope i get the performance i am looking for...my cak 38 keeps the xp pretty cool right now, but i expect it to get a littler hotter when the high summer temps come...

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< my 'lab' is in my garage...my wife kicked me out of the house when i started getting addicted to hardware...in the lab, there are 3 fully functioning pc's, and a crapload of parts ranging from old 486's up to current hardware......i gotta get rid of some of this stuff... >> LOL... I use to have my computer in my room, but then it got way too messy and my folks let me set up my "lab" in the basement... Eew, 486's... I think I got a few of those myself! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> I'd mod my Lian Li, but I'm too chicken and lazy... Maybe one day when I see a really kick ass Lian Li mod I'll put a window and such into mine! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> With your watercooling, what type of coolant do you use? Are you going to add any kinda chiller to it?

CygnusX1

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

do it!!! cut the lian li!!!! especially now when you can buy replacement panels, or windowed panels...aluminum cuts soooooo nicly with the dremel...<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> in my h2o kit i will be running distilled water & water wetter...from what i ve seen produces the best results...no plans for a chiller just yet, but the guy who i made the custom baybus for keeps telling me he will hook me up with some chiller goodness....<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> we'll see....

Comixion

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I'm so envious,yall make me sick<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> Would ya like a pic of my desk with only the monitor sittin' there all by its lonesome? Dogonnit! i'll get mine together soon and slap it in here, Hey Colin, that Geforce3 in the purple box there,,,,,,very, very nice card. still gots mine.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> Hey cignus, want me to texture them walls for ya?<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Really CygnusX1, a dremel cuts Aluminum easily? Hmm, I guess I have a project for the wknd then! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Hmm, what do you think would work better, if I pelt my CPU then cooled it water or use water to cool and chill the coolant? LOL, sorry for the poor question! Hehe... Hey Comixion, let's see your setup! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> I'm gonna be interested in your NEW computer though! Ya, that's a Visiontek GF3. It's a great card still! I liked that AMD poster CygnusX1 had in the background. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Zero

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

My system is: Mid-Tower Case w/ 300 Watt PS ECS K7S5A Motherboard Athlon XP 1700+ Retail (1.47ghz) 256MB Samsung PC-2100 DDR SDRAM Geforce2 MX-200 32MB Maxtor D740X 7200RPM 80GB Lite-On 32x12x40 Burner Panasonic 1.44 MB Floppy Drive Compaq V70 17" Monitor

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

That's a nice system, what do you do mainly with it Zero?

Zero

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Yup, this comp is nice to have, since I waiting for a new one for quite along time .. since b4 i was using an old p2 233. Then i finally got to build this system like 2 months ago. I still need to purchase a better vid card though. Although I don't want to spend all that much, wouldn't mind getting at nice ATI Radeon 8500 or Geforce4 Ti4200. Hmmm ... so what do I mainly use this box for .... Well I think the question should be, what don't I use it for? heh. I guess mainly for playing games .. and of course to read the lastest articles at PC Stats<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

What type of gaming do you play? The Radeon 8500 is an excellent value these days. Haha, thanks for the kind words man! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Dude

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

AMD Athlon 1100 T-bird, MSI K7T Pro2-A, 512M PC-133, Voodoo 5500 64M, KDS 19" monitor SB live, Camridge Soundworks FPS 1500 Speakers Quantum 40G ATA 100, 7200 rpm, LG 16X DVD, LG 10x4x32 CDRW Logitech Internet Navigator Keyboard, Logitech Trackman Wheel Acer 3300U scanner, Epson color 777 Printer, Intel Pocket camera D-Link 10/100 NIC, 3-com Router, Ericsson Cable modem ADS USB 2.0 PCI,

Comixion

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Hey Dude, I see your running a Voodoo 5500. Dam oldie but goodie. That still is a sweet card IMHO.

Zero

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Well Colin, Lately I have just been playing GTA3, although it is getting sort of boring and repetitive, and I haven't had all too much time to play it. I used to play CS quite a lot ... but then I didn't like CS 1.4 all too much as they changed the whole jumping situation (no more bunny hopping!), which took away some fun factor. Plus there's a whole lot of cheaters out there. Still looking to find a good multiplayer game to play online, as a lot of the old games i used to play is getting boring.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Man, V5 5.5k! That brings back a lot of memories! I still have mine! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> It has some of hte best image quality out there. GTA3 is a kick ass game Zero, but you're right it does get kindan repetitive after a while. Hehe... It's a lot of fun though after a long days work, I just like to run some ppl over. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> As for CS, I use to play a lot myself back when it was beta, but now there are just too many cheaters, it makes me sick. I use to play a lot of RTCW, cheating in that wasn't very bad, right now I'm playing Jedi Knight II online. It's a blast man! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

BombTek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

PIII 933@@1148 164fsb 256MB Muskin Rev.2 Timings 2-2-2 7,9 ASUS CUSL2-C ATI A-I-W Radeon 2x 20GB Maxtor 740x(w/fdb) in raid0 60GB Seagate ATA100 ASUS 50x Yamaha 20x10x40 SBlive Platinum 5.1 3com 3C905C-TX Hitachi CM772 Cooling: Lapped CAK 39 Delta60mm black label Lapped CPU slug HSF on Northbridge HS on Southbridge, Clk gen and USB chip Thermaltake Ramsinks HS on A-I-W ram Case INWIN Q500 w/ mods <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.home.earthlink.net/~bombtek/website/Q500.htm">Click here to see mods</a> Dual 300w PSUs 1x 92mm and 1x 80mm intake 3x 80mm exhaust Fans controlled by custom fanbus

CygnusX1

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

BombTek, Welcome to PC Stats!!! nice system, killer mods... I fixed the link to your pics...<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

BombTek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

BombTek nice mod's dude! Wow, that's a nice overclock you have on your P3! I use to use the CUSL2 myself excellent board. Probably one of if not the best i815E boards around!

BombTek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Thanks Colin! I would be happy-er if my muskin rev2 would handle it at 5,7 but it won't and the SDram platform is a dying breed so I don't see the use of buying any rev3. I wished I'd had more time to make a good guide for modding the Q500, but you know how it goes.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Hmm, ya that's a shame. Does that memory tweak make a big performance difference? Write teh guide when you can, the Inwin Q500 will be around for a long time, it's an awesome case! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> I hacked up my old Q500 way back like 2 years ago! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

GNXtreme

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

My signature pretty much gives the lowdown on my machine...but I also have a k7-950mhz that is kinda plain and will be beefed up here soon!

BombTek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Colin, by "tweak" you mean going to 5,7 timing?

ohsgaston

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

My main system (I'm still building it) is: 1.2Ghz Duron ECS K7S5A motherboard 256MB DDR PC2100 Maxtor QuietDrive 40GB ATA/133 GeForce 2 MX400 64MB graphics That's the main stuff in my computer (I know it's not top of the line).

Joe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

wooohhooooo i love these threads <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> here is the specs on my main pc Abit kt7a raid 1gig pc133 xp 1800+ @ 1900+ alpha pal 8045 w/delta 80mm 80cfm fan 2x 20 gig western digital ata 100 7200 rpm hdd's on raid 0 40 gig seagate barracuda ata 100 7200rpm hdd gf2 ti 200 @ 500 sblive x gamer nic 32x poloriod cdrw 12x hitachi dvd <img src="http://www.furioustech.com/joescomputerinsides.jpg">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Yes Bombtek, that's what I meant. Haha, nice system there Pimpin Joe! How can you stand the noise of that delta? It drives me nuts!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Joe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

honestly i really dont even here is anymore lol <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> also if you put a towel or some cloth behind your computer it will quiet it down a lot .. and if you are like me and have the side open most of the time put a cloth on the side as well and that will quiet it down even more for ya <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Damn, you'd think I was a wuss then, I can't stand the noise my 53CFM Sanyo Denki makes on my Swiftech MC462A! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Even after I swapped the fan for a 41CFM Sunon I still think my computer makes too much noise. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> I'll try that towel thing though thanks! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

omz007

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

My computer sucks! I can't wait to get a new one. HP Pavilion 4445 366MHz 64MB SDRAM 4.3 GB 32 max speed CD-ROM 4MB ATI Rage IIC

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

omz007 that's not really that bad... A few upgrades and you'll be alright. What do you do mainly wiht your computer?

GNXtreme

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Colin, really...how long has it been since you had a 366mhz? That cat is in desparate need of upgrade.

ADRAMELK

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

My parents still use a 133 oerclocked to 166, does everything they need it to.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

BombTek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Yes Bombtek, that's what I meant. >> It sure does Colin.. Even at non o/c it's a big difference.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Colin, really...how long has it been since you had a 366mhz? >> <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> It all matters on what he does. Also everyone has to live within their means so it's not a big deal. It could be worse! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> << It sure does Colin.. Even at non o/c it's a big difference. >> Really? Have you tried upping the voltage to your memory? Maybe that might help! Here is GNXtreme's system. It looks pretty cool to me! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="http://www.pcstats.com/articleimages/Stealthed-w-Keyboard.jpg"> <img src="http://www.pcstats.com/articleimages/The-Guts.jpg"> <img src="http://www.pcstats.com/articleimages/sSide.jpg"> <img src="http://www.pcstats.com/articleimages/Side-on-Fire.jpg"> Very NICE SIR! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

Joe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

w0w that scorpion must have taken a lot of time to do .. unless it was done with waterjets <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Ya, I agree that mod looks wicked! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

CygnusX1

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

yeah GNX...sweet cut out..how was it done? I am looking into getting my panel plasma cut at a local autobody shop...

TheJim

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Ok, I like this topic... My home PC is: 2 AMD Athlon MP 1.2 Ghz processors (dual rules!) sitting on a Tyan Tiger MP S2460 mobo, 512 MB of Crucial PC2100 (266 Mhz) DDR ECC RAM, a GeForce4 MX440 AGP (I long for the Ti 4600...), Sound Blaster Audigy Gamer!, Netgear 10/100 ethernet card, a generic modem, and still room for 3 more PCI cards. 60 Gig 7200 RPM Maxtor HDD, 48x generic CD-ROM, and a Sony 32x/10x/40x CD-RW. On the outside, I have an Envision 17" PureFlat monitor, and Creative 5.1 speakers. WinXP Pro is my current OS, but I'll probably be moving to a tripple-boot system soon (WinXP, Linux, and Litestep running on Win98SE). I hope to get some pics up soon! hehehe

BombTek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Unfortunately upping the voltage doesn't help any <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

Dude

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Windows 2000 Pro /SP2 Micro-star K7T Pro2-A (MS-6330 Ver1) Motherboard AMD Athlon 1.1 Ghz T-Bird processor 512 Meg PC-133 sdram Quantum 40GB Ultra ATA-100, 7200 rpm Hard Drive LG 10x4x32 CDRW and LG 16x DVD Voodoo 5 5500 64 MB AGP Video Card 19” KDS Vs-190i Color Monitor Sound Blaster Live Value Sound Card Cambridge Soundworks FPS 1500 Speaker System, 4 speaker plus sub Logitech Internet Navigator Keyboard and Logitech Trackman Wheel ADS USB 2.0 5 Port PCI card. D-Link DFE-538TX/R 10/100 Network Interface Card 3-COM 3C510 Home Ethernet Gateway. Ericsson HM200c DOCIS Cable Modem Epson Stylus Color 777 Printer Acer S2W 3300U Scanner Intel PC Pocket Camera

Rico

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I've got a few running right now. An athlon xp 1800+ 40gig 7200 hard drive ti200@240/500 512mb ram dual power supply (700w total) rounded cables, other stuff athlon 1.2 tbird 40gig 7200 hard drive geforce 256 stock 256mb ram 350w POS k6-2 475 6gig drive 64mb ram ls-120 75w? lol They all run xp too, but 64mb is waaaay too low for the k6 machine. I have them all around me, k6 to my left on an "L" desk, xp right here in front, and the tbird over to the right side on another desk. A friend just gave me a k6-2 233 to play with too....not sure what I'll do with it but for now it's just laying around. I have a few parts i need to do something with like a k6-2 333, a kt133 motherboard I have laying around, a duron (might be dead), ect. BTW GNX! F*cking awesome case dude! Are you a scorpio?

sk8 bloke87

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

my profile pretty much says it all

GNXtreme

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Not a scorpio...just like the scorpion...

revvy

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

cooldogin: I think Ike is referring to the first generation GeForce line called the "GeForce 256"... not a GeForce4 with 256 MB DDR..

ADRAMELK

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

My current system: Epox 8K3A 1.4 Ghz T-bird 512 DDR PC 2700 MAXTOR 20 GB HD FUJITSU 20 GB HD GF2 Pro 64 MB 32x10x40x LiteOn 10x DVD XP Build 2600 / Mandrake / LILO Boot 20' Trinitron <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> 5 button Optical mouse PC Mark 2002: <Name type="String">CPU Score</Name> <Result type="Integer">3821</Result><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> <Name type="String">Memory Score</Name> <Result type="Integer">3288</Result> <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> <Name type="String">HDD Score</Name> <Result type="Integer">311</Result> <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0">

Hansaman

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

My system specs (Primary Machine): AthlonXP 1800 (retail box with heatsink and fan) (shim) Abit KX7-333 RAID motherboard (RAID 0 - Stripping) 512MB PC2700 DDR (333MHz) RAM (Generic) 2 x Western Digital 7200 RPM 80GB (8MB Cache) Special Edition hard drives (Configured into RAID 0) Toshiba SD-1612 DVD-ROM drive Cyndyne Lightning IV 48x12x48x CD-RW drive PNY Verto GeForce 3 Ti200 AGP graphics Creative Labs Soundblaster Audigy 2 Platinum sound card Linksys LNE100TX 10/100 LAN card Adaptec AUA3100LP USB2.0 PCI card ALPS FDD Windows XP Pro -- all housed in a black Antec Soho Server case with Allied 400W P/S and 4 case fans -- Kids system (formerly mine) K6-2/500 CPU 384MB PC100 RAM EPoX MVP3G5 Motherboard PNY Verto GeForce 4 MX400 AGP graphics Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy Gamer sound card Linksys LNE100TX 10/100 LAN Card WD 60GB 7200 RPM HD 2 case fans

Juan

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Here's my system. My other one is an oldie but a goldie: Intel PIII 500Mhz 100Mhz FSB slot 1(512k) Intel SE440BX (Seattle 2) 3 sticks of 64MB PC100 (Micron) ATI 128 Pro AGP Adaptec SCSI Controller Seagate SCSI HD 7200RPM

FTO

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

My system: k7 athlon 750Mhz 128 mb pc133+64 mb pc100 = 192mb ram 40 gb Maxtor 7200rpm 6.4 gb quantum hd Powercolor Geforce 2 mx200 @ 220/360 16x10x40 yamaha cdrw 16x hitachi cd-rom sound blaster 16 ISA w/ built on ide channel that i dont have a clue how to work.... Old system: Compaq Presario 166mhz @ 200mhz 1.2 gb IBM hd 1.9gb quantum bigboot hd 16x fujitsu cdrom 64 mb sd ram + 16 mb sd ram ONBOARD on board video + some 2mb vid card onboard sound My brother's: Amd 1Ghz some Msi mobo 256 pc2100 onboard sound geforce 2 mx200 w/ tv-o 20x10x40 yamaha cdrw 16x pioneer dvdrom 40 gb maxtor 7200rpm 15gb maxtor 5600rpm another 15gb maxtor 5600rpm Monitors: IBM 14", compaq 15", sony trinitron 210gs 17"

Parachute

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Lian Li PC60 USB (aluminum grey) Enermax 341 Watt (incl. 80mm clearblade fan) Abit KR7A-Raid Athlon Xp 2100+ AGOIA "9" (13x146MHz=1903MHz - XP2400+) (LOCKED) Corsair 1GB XMS2700 (2 x 512MB) (146MHz) (Samsung Rev C 256Mb IC's) Maxtor D740X 80GB "6L040L2" (2 x 40GB, raid-0) Leadtek WinFast A250 Ultra TD (max 320/745) Sony CPD-G420S Plextor 16/10/40A Creative Inspire 5.1 5300 Creative Audigy MP3+ 3COM 3C905CX-TXM Video in/out via Leadtek WinFast A250 Ultra TD FireWire via Creative Audigy MP3+ Logitech optical mouse Microsoft Internet Keyboard Pro Temperature CPU/Case Idle, cpu:41-44 case:26-28 Stressed, cpu:48-52 case:28-33 Arctic Silver III + Alpha Pal 8045 + Sunon KD1208PTB2 Casefans 2 x 80mm front bottom, 1 x 80mm upper back Motorola SB4100U: dedicated 10MBit/1Mbit, no datalimit, no downtime, $30/month (Optimum Online !!! ) Windows XP Professional Corporate, Windows .Net server Modded bios version 9N + 2.32

GNXtreme

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Since we are talking about our old computers mine is a: MSI- 6330 motherboard AMD Thunderbird 950Mhz CPU 320Mb PC133 RAM MSI GeForce2 MX 400 Cooler Master Heavy Duty H/S and Fan Screwless Case w/250W PS Maxtor 20G 7200rpm Diamondmax HDD Boston Acoustic Speakers

Joe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Just thought i would throw in sone mew specs for you all on my main rig XP1800+ (1530mhz )@ 2100+ (1735mhz ) Epox 8k3a+ 512megs pc2100 crucial 2x 256meg sticks GF2 TI200 @ TI500 40 gig seagate barracuda ata100 7200rpm 2x 20gig western digital ata100 7200rpm on raid -0 12x hitachi dvd 32x poloriod cdrw SB Live X-Gamer 10/100 nic as soon as i can get some better ram I think i can get my 1800+ up past 1.8ghz.. its a pretty good chip so far.. I am also gonna order a Thermalrigth AX-7 Heatsink in a day or 2

WDB

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Its in my sig, at least my current one is...but I still have a couple others too.

freebird2002

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

New here but thought this was a good place to start so here goes AMD T-bird !.4GHz not overclocked yet cuz am still trying to figure that out Asus A7A133 Mob512 SDRAM Geforce Exstacy Ti4400 Pacific digital 12/20/32 CDRW Panasonic DVDR/Ram ATI Tv wonder 10/100 Nic (off brand) Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum US Robotics V90 modem Dell 17" monitor MS optical mouse Dell keyboard Saitek gold joystick 80 GB seagate 7200 40 Gb Maxtor 5400 All in Antec 300W mid case Am going to upgrade to dare I say it A 2 + Ghz P4 soon I hope as I need the DDR RAM. Anyway looking forward to getting to know some of you guiys

GNXtreme

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Welcome to the Stats freebird!

freebird2002

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Thx GNX I am relatively new to this and hope y'all can give me a few good ideas along the way.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

GNXtreme

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

We like to help each other as much as possible.  Mods are my thing, I am still learning a lot of software.

Pseudolus

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

'98 Sony VAIO PII MMX 306mhz 288 PC66 Siemens SDRAM GeForce4 Xtasy MX 420 64mb 40gb IBM 5400 HD 32/12/40x CD-Read/RW 8x CD-Read PCV-220 Socket A mobo-supprots ISE,PCI,AGP

Part16John

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

hey all im new here and i thought this would be a good place to post first.... Iwill KK266 Motherboard AMD Athlon 1.33@1.55 (155*10) Alpha Pal8045 heatsink and Vantec Tornado Fan(84.1 cfm) Maxtor 30GB HD 7200 rpm Logitech Z-560 speakers ATI AIW 7500 (315/411) Samsung Syncmaster 753df

freebird2002

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Was thinking about doin a mod for my next case but wanna spend my bux on hardware first then can play with case later, have to break out the PLASTIC as it is uh - oh still looking at the new Soyo P4X400 with P4 and some groovy DDR RAM

shez

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

well after reading about all the cool computers use guys have i only thought it fair to wet your taste buds with little monster of a computer i have i am very proud of this as it rocks please no jelousy only serious appreciation to this top of the range PC, I know by the time use have read my system specs use will be seething with envy but please keep in mind that not all can be as lucky as i am so here goes on the specs of my mean machine. MOBO=a biscuit tin lid with a few microchips and some secret tweeking RAM= a whopping 22K ROm= an outstanding 15K graphic modes =280*200 colours= a brilliant 12 HDD= a tenth of a full 1GIG built in 1 meg graphics (can play space invaders on this beast of a machine) sound= makes a beeping noise like you have never heard would give use a few more specs on it but that will do for now i don't want to sound like i am showing off. Well there you go then folks please do not ask if i am selling this beast as there is nothing that could make me part with this well who in there right mind would. i have been thinking of upgrading to the full commodor 64 but depends how my money is i might have to leave that for a couple of more years but as use can well see i have more than i need in this monster of a PC

GNXtreme

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

All that I can say to that is WOW...

freebird2002

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

To which I can only add simply OMG!!!!!!!!!!! Where can a guy get a beast like that?

Nitehawk

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

All of you guys are lucky. I'm without a computer right now, just using my parents. Although, once I get the chance, I plan on buying one. (I had to sell my old one <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">) Here's the specs for what I'm looking at getting: Soyo sy-kt333 Dragon Ultra AMD XP 1700+ 512MB DDR 333 GeForce 4 Ti4400 128MB SB Audigy Platinum 40x12x40x CD-RW (not sure on the make yet) 16x40x DVD-Rom (not sure here either) Maxtor 80Gb 7200 RPM Maxtor 30Gb 7200 RPM Daytek 77A 17" CRT Monitor D-link NIC

GNXtreme

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

That is a respectable machine...you better start saving your money!

Joe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

just felt like spamming my system specs around some more <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> Main Rig (Yoda Mainframe) Athlon XP 1800+ @ 2000+ Epox 8k3a+ 256megs pc2100 Crucial Geforce 2 Ti200 300/510 (pathetic i know) 40gig seagate barracuda ata100 7200rpm 20gig western digital ata100 7200rpm (pulled one out for my duron system below) 16x Lite-on DVD 32x Poloriod CDRW SB-Live X- Gamer 431watt Enermax PSU Secondary Rig (Kamui) Duron 1300 @ 1500 Soyo KT333 Dragon Lite Thermalright AX-7 with Delta 80mm 80cfm fan 256megs pc2100 Crucial Geforce 2 GTS 32meg DDR (yep even more pathetic ) 20gig Western Digital ata100 7200rpm 12x Hitachi DVD 350watt Antec PSU Third System (community use Hoe) Duron 800@1000 Abit KT7A Raid Alpha PEP66 with delta 60mm 256megs pc133 Geforce 2 MX400 32meg sdram (I know , I know... pathetic) 15gig Western Digital ata66 7200rpm 12x HP CDRW SB Live X-Gamer 300watt something PSU

Juan

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Here are my new specs:

xWastedMindx

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

The first is just my bull************************ computer, games, surfing the internet, web design and stuff. The second is my webserver that should be online soon( I hope) MSI mainboard.. not sure on model / VIA chipset AMD Athlon 900Mhz GeForce2mx 400 with 64MB .. im cheap <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> SB Live Soundcard 256MB PC100 SDRAM 24x16x48 CD burner 16x32 DVD drive 1(one) Maxtor 80GB HDD using Ultra ATA 133 Controller card 1(one) Western Digital 30GB HDD using IDE for backup of the 80 ------------- GigaByte GA-7VTXE+ mainboard / VIA chipset AMD Athlon 1.4GHz Creative (PCI) TNT2 Ultra w/32MB RAM (upgrading soon) Onboard Sound...not sure 512MB PC2600 DDR RAM 52x CD drive 1(one) Seagate 40GB HDD this one isnt much better, but for being a webserver, it doesnt need much. Most of that i will be upgraded soon.

CaffeinatedSoap

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Uh i probibly dont have as much good stuff lyin around but I bet i have more... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> I'll post pics of it soon as i get my main computer workin

GNXtreme

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Well I had my system specs in my siggy but I went and changed it...so here it is again...just in case anyone wants to know. Soyo KT333 Dragon Ultra AMD XP 1800+ w/CM HHC-001 512MB PC2700 DDR 333(Crucial) Visiontek Xtasy GeForce4 Ti4200 128mb DDR Fireball 40GB HHD LG 32x10x40 CD-RW LG 16X DVD Stealth Front Black Full Tower Case w/ Scorpion Cutout Red light There are pics back on page 2 of this thread....they were posted by Colin btw....Colin where are you?

kMaN

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I recently built two systems, one for me and the other for my wife. My system: Athlon XP 2100 AUSU A7S333 512 DDR333 RAM GeForce 4 Ti 4600 AGP SoundBlaster Audigy Gamer Lite-On LTN526 CDROM Lite-On LTR 40125W WD 40gig HDD ATA/100 7200rpm Fujitsu 8gig HD ATA/100 5400rpm (I got it free from my cousin) Kingston 10/100 Ethernet PCI Card Ezonics EZcam Compaq MV940 19" Monitor Altec Lansing Speakers (Bass box and satellites) Generic Floppy (I do not even remember where I got it) Black Case (Side Window, 2x side 80mm fans, 1x rear 60mm fan, neon blue light) Glow in the Dark IDE cables Wifeys Comp: Athlon XP 2100 Biostar M7VIG 512 SDRAM133 RAM ATI All-In-Wonder 32mb SoundBlaster PCI 128 HP CD/R Mitsumi DVD Maxtor 60gig ATA/133 HDD 7200rpm On-Board Ethernet 10/100 KDS Xflat 19" Monitor Compaq Speakers (I got these free from my cousin also) Generic Floppy Same Black Case as my computer Glow in the dark IDE cables Well, of course I have broadband, cable, networked together with a D-Link 704-P router. <img src="http://home.nc.rr.com/xcal/computer1.gif"> <img src="http://home.nc.rr.com/xcal/computerb.gif">

Ender

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Tyan Tiger MPX S2466 mobo' Dual XP1500+ (1333mhz) Volcano 7+ 512megs Registered PC2100 DDR SDRAM 2x 256meg sticks GeForce 4 4400 40 GB Seagate barracuda ata100 7200rpm 12x brand x dvd 32x mediamaster cdrw <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

Ender

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Hello all! I plan on upgrading my "uber-rig" - the options are to expand my RAM to at least 2 to 4 Gig, add another HD and partition it, then install Windows XP (i currently am using windows2k professional on the first HD), and maybe upgrade the CPU to dual 2200+? i hear they are selling real cheap, 144 each. maybe a superior heat sink? much appreciated.

Joe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Hello all! I plan on upgrading my "uber-rig" - the options are to expand my RAM to at least 2 to 4 Gig, add another HD and partition it, then install Windows XP (i currently am using windows2k professional on the first HD), and maybe upgrade the CPU to dual 2200+? i hear they are selling real cheap, 144 each. maybe a superior heat sink? much appreciated. >> you need to post a new thread instead of putting this in the system specs thread. btw .. what the hell would you need 2 - 4 gigs of ram? lol thats jsut gonna actually slow your system down .. just go with a 1 gig chip .. thats more then enough

copaceticKid

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

ahhhhhh, finally it's all working... just recently got this system, made a few errors in judgment though... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0"> athlon xp 2000+ @ 1750mhz epox 8h5a2+ fsb @ 140mhz 2x corsair 512mb ddr333 gainward gf4 ti4600 (golden sample) 2x maxtor 40 gb 7200 ata133 lite on dvd, cd-rw sb live platinum samsung syncmaster 181T <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> i got this machine to overclock but it didn't really go as planned. i was real dissapointed with the 140mhz fsb, after reading reviews about max page pumping it up to 219... I prolly shoulda stuck w/ 512 mb and gotten some of that twin mos stuff... also, my athlon doesn't like anything over the 1750 range... i have a volcano 9, and i was hoping to at least get up to 2200+ i guess it's still a good system although i kinda wish i'd held off another TWO DAYS to get the radeon 9700 pro... sh!t i think what i like the most is my monitor... it's perdy

CHE

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Asus NForce A7N-266 VM AA 2 x 256 MB Corsair PC2100 CAS 2.5 2 x 40 GB Maxtor Diamond Max 8 in RAID 0 1 x 40 GB Maxtor Diamond Max 8 Asus 48x16x48X CDRW Coolermaster round cables Vantec Stealth 80mm x 2 Coolermaster CP5-7JD1B-0L XP+ 2400 @ 96°F Silent. No whirring fans, no nothing. Just an ocassional, muffled, drive click.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Nice CHE! Looks like you need to update your sig! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

CHE

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

That depends on which computer I am supposed to stick in there. I have four now <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> And with two on a KVM switch and one portable I sometimes use three machines at once <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> Frequently one is running models, one is searching or not in use at the moment, and I'm surfing on the third. Life is good <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif" border="0"> You're right about the sig, though... I just have a hard time letting go <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> Him..I probably got enough parts around here for another machine...maybe I need a KVM switch with more channels... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

DeanLowe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I'm using this at the moment to write this post. AMD Athlon XP 1700+ @ 10 X 170FSB T'Bred core (was a 1700+ @ 11X173FSB Pal. core yesterday, might not make the switch...i'll see how the A7N8X does first) ThermalRight AX7 w/"Crystal" 80mm fan KingMax 512MB PC-2700 @ 170MHz 2-2-2-5-1 Abit KX7-333 Raid (to be an A7N8X after I shut down and take it apart) 3 X Maxtor 60GB D740X 1 X WD1200JB 120GB 1 X IBM Deskstar 75GXP <A class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=361" target=blank></A>75GB Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM Lite-On 24X10X40 CD-RW ATI Radeon 8500 128MB OEM (soon to be ATI Radeon 9700Pro) Wide Crappy Case <A href="http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=361">http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=361</A> Antec 350W PSU

CHE

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Nice! Man, you pack a lot of drives into that machine!

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Don't tell us what your system is soon to be....We wanna know what it is now. Here are my specs Soon to be: Athlon 128 @ 34534.4Ghz 14TB DDR4 RAM 98PB 10000000rpm Serial ATA1000 GeForce 42 w/ 80GB onboard RAM 3DMark - 3498750293487509873

Hansaman

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

My system spec's have been posted previously, but I made a few upgrades. Here are current specs: AMD AthlonXP 1800 (retail w/fan and heatsink) ABit KX7-333R motherboard 512MB PC2700 RAM Creative Labs Audigy Platinum 2 (will be getting black drive panel) Toshiba SD-1612 DVD-ROM HP cd12 CD-RW PNY Nvidia G-Force 3 Ti200 AGP Linksys 10/100 LAN card Adaptec USB 2 Connect PCI USB 2.0 card Western Digital 80GB 7200 RPM Hard Drives (w/8 MB buffer) Win98SE (Not set-up in any RAID configuration. Apparently, Win98 does not support RAID). (Plan to upgrade to Win2K or WinXP Pro sometime after first of year)

DeanLowe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Just changed the board and CPU A big pain in the butt, had to reinstall WinXP and ALL my programs<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> It's now 1700+ unlocked on Asus A7N8X Deluxe running at 9 X 200FSB CL2-2-2-5. HUGE thanks to Colin, the masochist...ahh, i mean Leafs fan<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> HAHA

DeanLowe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Well, 4 of the drives aren't really IN the machine, more like laying next to it connected by 2 rounded IDE and power cables<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0">.  The Crappy Wide case doesn't have enough bays to hold all of them.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Damn man everyone here is an "AMD Zealot"! I better be careful... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

BAM!

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Merry Christmas everyone, here are my specs Colin: A7m266-m Asus mobo 266 front side bus AthlonXP 2000+ PC 2100 512 MB Chaintech G4 Ti4600 Mitsumi 24X cdr/w Toshiba 16X dvd rom Soundblaster Audigy Platnium Coolermaster ATC 210 Vx2 Altec Lansing ADA890 5.1 THX speakers i was thinking about either buying a unlock kit to unlock my 2000+ since my mobo does not have any OC features nor jumpers to overclock. or should i just spend some money on a new mobo that supports OC. i mean i think i know how to unlock a athlonXP "theoretically". question is what if i mess up the process, would it trash my entire processor? what do you think Colin any suggestions? -BAM!

BAM!

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

OHHH.... forgot to mention. i have a 19" samsung 191T digital flat panel monitor. that is a sweet baby!!!.. honestly any looking for a new monitor i promise you that this one won't let you down. it's a beauti. one of a kind. -BAM!

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Hey Howard BAM! The A7M-266 is a pretty decent overclocker from what I hear. I have never played with it myself, but it's suppose to be one of the best AMD760 based boards out there. In terms of overclocking, unlocking usually does not allow you to overclock higher, it allows you to complement your high CPU speed with a high FSB. Unlocking is not hard but yes there is a risk of killing your processor. Howard BAM!, where are you located? If you're in teh States check <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.highspeedpc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HSPC&Product_Code=XPkit&Category_Code=OC">this</a> unlocking kit out. It's suppose to be very good. I know what you're talkinga bout with the monitor... Samsung makes some very sweet LCD's! I had the pleasure of using the 181T for about 3 months earlier this year. I cried when they took it back. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< HUGE thanks to Colin, the masochist...ahh, i mean Leafs fan >> I should read posts more carefully... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> LOL, Whatever Dean you have to beleaf! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

DeanLowe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Don't tell us what your system is soon to be....We wanna know what it is now. Here are my specs Soon to be: Athlon 128 @ 34534.4Ghz 14TB DDR4 RAM 98PB 10000000rpm Serial ATA1000 GeForce 42 w/ 80GB onboard RAM 3DMark - 3498750293487509873 >> You know, you should really pay attention and read people's posts more carefully before commenting. If you HAD read it you would've noticed that I said I have a ATI Radeon 8500 and will upgrade to a Radeon 9700 soon(I already have the card, just haven't put it in yet).  Please READ more carefully next time, it only make you look foolish if you don't<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

BAM!

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

hey colin, thanks for the response, although i didn't clearify one thing. the A7m266-m i have which has that "-m" after the name is a HP oem mobo code name bermuda. and that's one board which has no OC feature what so ever. that's why i was wondering if unlocking a cpu would acomplish the OC goal. does that mean once i unlock it, the comp will auto recognize it as a higher clocked processor IE. 2200+ and auto adjust it's voltage to whatever it needs? since there's also no voltage option in bios for you to change either. or i better off look for a new mobo and OC it with the fsb feature. cause if i mess up the unlocking i am looking at spending another amount of money for a new processor. so why did they take back your 181t?!!! that sucks... i would bust anyone who takes my 191t away from me. -BAM!

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< the A7m266-m i have which has that "-m" after the name is a HP oem mobo code name bermuda. and that's one board which has no OC feature what so ever. >> Oh! Sorry about that! Hmm, is your computer a complete HP system or are you just using an OEM HP motherboard? Have you tried flashing your BIOS with a regular A7M266 BIOS? << does that mean once i unlock it, the comp will auto recognize it as a higher clocked processor IE. 2200+ and auto adjust it's voltage to whatever it needs? since there's also no voltage option in bios for you to change either. >> No unlocking will only allow you access the multipliers within the BIOS, it does not set the multiplier higher. Unfortunately I think you may be out of luck! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> << or i better off look for a new mobo and OC it with the fsb feature. cause if i mess up the unlocking i am looking at spending another amount of money for a new processor. >> Your processor still is very powerful, are you having problems with programs? If I were you, I'd get a new motherboard... A new mobo would allow you to overclock now and in the future when you upgrade. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> << so why did they take back your 181t?!!! that sucks... i would bust anyone who takes my 191t away from me. >> It was a review sample... I don't get to keep everything I review. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> You're right though that's one very sweet mobo, I really miss its clarity!

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Your are supposed to be posting your SYSTEM specs, not your PART specs. Maybe your the one who looks foolish, because I know it's not me.

BAM!

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

thanks colin, and yes i am using a HP oem a7m266-m model. i am happy with my processor now. it's just i've done almost everything but overclocking my cpu. it's because the mobo i have. i've never got a chance to do it. but i think i'll look into a good OC mobo for future upgrade. oh by the way... the latest news of AMD is that apple is going to use AMD's next generation athlon 64 as their processor. ps. is it just me or that shiniz likes going around busting people's chops! -bam!

DeanLowe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Oh, I'm sorry Shiznit, I guess all these months my Windows XP wasn't running on a "system".  I guess it IS just a pile of parts that I put in to the case. My humble apologies for thinking that parts assembled in a case running Windows and Q3A constituted a "system". <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0"><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0"><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0"><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">

Homer73

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

hehe where am i?? dont laugh ya bunch a' mofos... 1ghz duron MSI K7T TURBO2 VIA KT133A 2x128mb Crucial pc133 cas-2 15gb IBM Deskstar 75GXP 4gb Maxtor HP 8x8x32? cdrw Pioneer 16x slot-loaded dvd-rom Gainward Geforce3 ti200 some kinda sb live some kinda cambridge soundworks 4.1 speakers some sort of nic kds 17" monitor 300w POS power supply Enlight 7237 case I also have a Packard smell 333mhz celeron, a Dell inspiron 466mhz laptop.... AND I have a MSI K7N415 Pro and a 700 Duron laying around somewhere but nuthin to put 'em in and no ddr ram soooo <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

NaSTy

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

The atmosphere in here just got better GIVE IT A BREAK YOU GUYZ WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT! B!TCH AT EACH OTHER SOMEWHERE ELSE <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://bbs.pcstats.com/pcstats/messageview.cfm?catid=64&threadid=17106">Here! I even made a thread for ya</a>

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Haha... Don't worry man we're all bud's here! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Np Howard BAM! that's a good move. Please keep us informed on how you do as well! Btw what type of cooing are you using? Homer73 that aint a bad system... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Does the job! Hey guys why don't you post some screenies of your system's power over at the <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://bbs.pcstats.com/pcstats/categories.cfm?catid=69">benchmarking forum</a>! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

BAM!

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

hey Colin, i was looking in for buying the new Asus A7V8X mobo to OC with my AthlonXp 2000+. so when i increase the FSB do i need to also increase the voltage as well? and the multiplyer if it's accessable. i believe 2000+ has 12.5 multiplyer. and also do i increase the fsb in incriments of 1 everytime or 33? if i put in the wrong combination wouldn't i get a black screen when i boot up? what will i do from there? i have a stock coolermaster socket A aluminum cpu heatsink/fan. my case is already a coolermaster aluminum ATC 210 vx2 so everything in the case are kept very cooled all the time. the cpu is very cool too. up tilll what point do you think i'll need a copper heatsink/fan for my cpu? thanks -bam!

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

The Asus A7V8X is a good motherboard, but personally if I were you, I'd would get something based on the nForce2. << so when i increase the FSB do i need to also increase the voltage as well? and the multiplyer if it's accessable. i believe 2000+ has 12.5 multiplyer. >> Yes, you're right the AthlonXP 2000+ uses a 12.5x multiplier and you should raise the FSB slowly. 1-2 MHz at a time until your system becomes unstable. When you get instability then raise the voltage and don't worry 1.85V is not too much for your CPU! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> << if i put in the wrong combination wouldn't i get a black screen when i boot up? what will i do from there? >> Don't worry here simply clear your CMOS (you'll have to refer to the manual on which jumper that is) and start over! If I were you, I'd invest in a good in a good CPU cooler... The Coolermaster heatsink is ok for stock speeds, but I wouldn't want to use it if you plan to do any major overclocking. It really isn't good enough.

BAM!

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

thanks again colin, so i go step by step increasing the fsb and voltage. what about the multiplyer. do i increase that at all? by how much.. is it better to increase more fsb or more multiplyer and less fsb to achieve the speed that i want. how exactly does it work. also i've noticed that in most of the OC mobos overclock features. there's always a CPU speed feature, fsb, multiplyer, and voltage feature. so do i need to go into the CPU speed setting and also change the speed? or it'll change it itself by doing the fsb and voltage trick. here's a pic of the a7v8x bios http://www.motherboards.org/images/15/2002/1216_p2_7.jpg it's a image from a review from those guys from motherboard.org sorry about all these questions. i just wanna know what exactly i need to change in the bios feature thanks -bam!

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Ahh, posting an image from another site? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> Actually to be honest ppl usually unlock the multiplier so they can lower it and up the FSB. You see, as the FSB gets higher, everything from the AGP/PCI's and memory work faster as well thus boosting overall system performance. Here's an example using an AthlonXP 2000+ as an example, if you run the multiplier at 10x and the FSB at 166 MHz (which would still only give you a CPU speed of 1.66 GHz) you would get a substantial performance boost thanks to the higher FSB. What I would do if I were you is, first leave the multiplier alone and up the FSB as high as you can. This way you'll find your CPU's maximum CPU speed. Then, lower the multiplier to something like 8x and up the FSB as high as you can. Once you find the maximum speeds of both, it becomes a juggling act. You want a mix of both high FSB and high CPU speed. Of course one problem witih running at a high FSB is your peripherals may not like the added stress. It takes a lot of time and patience to find your maximum speed. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> << sorry about all these questions. >> Np dude, just make sure you hang around our forums a bit more and we'll call it even alright? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Oh btw I didn't post my current system spec's... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> I'm using a... P4 1.8A @ 2.4 GHz (133 MHz FSB) Abit TH7II-RAID (memory running at 1066 mode) 2x 128MB Samsung PC-800-45 RDRAM 2x 128MB Kingston PC1066 RDRAM 3x 80GB Maxtor D740X 250MB Iomega Zip 16x10x40 Yamaha CD-RW 12x Toshiba DVD-ROM ATi AIW Radeon 8500 128MB ATi Firewire card Realtek 10/100 NIC Lian Li PC-70 SB Live! 5.1 Platinum I'll attach a few pictures of my rig as well. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="http://members.lycos.co.uk/csmo/Computer/Side.jpg"><img src="http://members.lycos.co.uk/csmo/Computer/Front.jpg"> Yes it's messy inside. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

Homer73

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

update! LOL couldnt help meself.. bestbuy had kingston value ram 256mb of pc133 for $12.99 (with a $23 mail-in rebate, Of Couse<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0">) so now im at 512mb of ram! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0"><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> (wow two posts in the hardware section! new record pour moi!)<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

BAM!

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Colin i think you got me convinced in buying Nforce2. i just did several research and seems like it's a pretty tite mobo. just don't know if anyone has encountered any problems with it yet. is it still in a beta stage tho? or is it all good and ready. one of the features that i really like about it is its dual channel ddr. do you think once i buy it i should enable it? i've got 2x256 pc2100 ram right now. i am still waiting for the 1GB to get cheap. so i am sticking with the 2x256 pc2100 for now. -bam!

BAM!

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

oh... forgot to mention . the new nforce2 board i am going to buy is the Asus A7n8X board. -BAM!

BAM!

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

ok.. so now i've narrowed down the heatsink fan down to 3 choices. the coolermaster's HHC-L61, HAC-V81 or thermaltake's Volcano 9. the thing is i wanna avoide as much noise as possible and still be able to get my 2000+ up to like a 2200+ without stability problem. any suggestions on which one of those three? i am buying the A7n8X for sure now. just gotta choose a HSF thanks -BAM!

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Howard BAM! that's good to hear! The Asus A7N8X is a nice motherboard from what I've seen! You see the beauty of the nForce2 and it's dual channel memory is, you can leave your memory at stock which would give you 4.2 GB/s of memory bandwidth (both sticks of PC2100 memory run in parallel thus doubling the overall memory bandwidth) and still be able to feed your overclocked Athlon! You'd need to get your FSB well past 200 MHz before you start to run into memory bandwidth problems. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Yes, definitely enable it. At stock speeds it won't do much for your processor, but if you plan to overclock it'll keep your processor very nicely fed. What do you do that requries so much memory Howard BAM!? 512MB is the sweet spot right now, going to 1 GB doesn't really improve overall system performance. You know what, you should look into the Thermaltake Volcano 7+. The heatsink design is superior to all the heatsinks you listed and the fan is adjustable as well. At maximum speed it doesn't quite push as many CFM's as the Volcano 9 fan but it's much quieter! That is a pretty good value Homer73! Hey you should post more in the hardare sections! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

BAM!

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

thanks colin, i think i'lll get the volcano 7+ and use it with the built-in q-fan technology. the reason i want so much ram on my system is because i am a graphic designer. i do all kinds of graphic related applications like photoshop, illustrator, flash.... etc i always run into low memory situation and since my HD is not exaclty the fastest so when it comes to running on virtual memory the performace just instantly degrade. but i think i'll look into buying 2x512 pc2700 dims. since together they're about $100 cheaper than 1Dim of 1GB. -bam! oh by the way... about the q-fan technology. thanks for the reply but do you by any chance know how the fan ratio thing works? i was lookin at the setting in the mobo manual online. it says something like "Configuration options: [10:15] [11:15] [12:14] [13:15] [14:15] [Full speed]" thanks

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Howard BAM! in order to use dual channel memory you'll need two sticks of memory! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> So if you want a GB of RAM, get 2x 512MB sticks. No I'm not sure how the ratio works, but I'll ask a few of my friends with Asus motherboards and get back to you.

BAM!

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

thanks colin, i am still searchin for the best HSF out there that's quiet and performs well. do you have any good suggestions besides volcano 7+???? -bam!

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< do you have any good suggestions besides volcano 7+???? >> That depends... How much do you want to spend? The Thermalright SLK-800 is currently the best Socket A heatsink on the market. Of course that thing doesn't come with a fan so you'll have to get one of those as well. A SLK-800 with maybe a Thermaltake Smart fan or Sunon low CFM fan would give you a good combination of quietness and cooling. If you slap on a Vantec Tornado it would rival low end water cooling, but that combo would be very noisy.

Zatrekaz

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Im new to PCstats but here is my sytems <hr> Main: AMD Athlon XP 2200+ 1.7 Gzh 512 Ram ( not sure of PC just got it today ) 100 Gb harddrive only has 3 PCI and one AGP slot (upgraded) GeForce 4 64 meg ram MX 420 PCI 15" LCD 52x CD-Rom DVD/CD-RW 10/100 Mps Network built-in <hr> Second system: ( very old ) Intel Celron 566 Mzh 10 gb hardrive (upgraded from 65megs) 319 ram PC 1300 Only has a CD-Rom no CD-RW (sucks) 2 PCI slots (upgraded) TNT2 Nividn 16 mg ram Vedio card PCI (upgraded) 15" LCD <hr> So theer it is, anyone ahve any ideas on how to upgrade my main comp? Lookin for some good upgrades and it is Windows XP home

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

If you have an AGP slot, why are you using a PCI Video Card?

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Zatrekaz! Welcome to PCStats! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> << So theer it is, anyone ahve any ideas on how to upgrade my main comp? Lookin for some good upgrades and it is Windows XP home >> The most important question first is, what do you do with your computer? Are you a gamer or do you mainly do word processing and surf the internet? Your main computer is plenty powerful for most things. I'm also wondering why you got a PCI GeForce4 MX420 if you have an AGP slot. With everything equal, AGP videocards usually perform faster then their PCI counterparts. Still, for the GeForce4 MX420 I doubt you'd notice much difference between AGP and PCI. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Your second rig isn't bad either, it seems about right for a second computer! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Hey as long as your main rig is fast, who cares right? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

mE_sTiR

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

AMD AthlonXP 1900+ Soyo K7ADA 512MB DDR PC-2100 (forget what brand) AOpen Aeolus GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB 60GB Seagate Barricude HDD LG Combo DVD-ROM/CD-RW... forget what speeds SB Audigy w/ Creative Inspire 5.1 Surround Sound 14" display (lol, such a small monitor) Logitech Optical Mouse... basic. i want a new mobo... might get an EPoX 8KHA+ from a friend... should i? he said it'll be really cheap. i dont know how much he wants for it... but anyways, compared to this K7ADA, should i switch?

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Hey mE_sTiR! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Nice to see ya. << might get an EPoX 8KHA+ from a friend... should i? he said it'll be really cheap. >> Well that really depends on how much your friend wants for the board. If he gives you a fair price then go for it. The 8KHA+ would be faster at stock speeds and it should overclock a hell of a lot be better as well! I know I loved my 8KHA+! THe thing would do 185 MHz FSB easy! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

mE_sTiR

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

w00t, than i shall endeavour to get such a mobo. in the mean time, im wondering if a kit to change the multiplyer on my CPU would be... more risky than useful... any advice?

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Ya, that's a good move I think. You do know, you will most likely have to format and reinstall eh... << im wondering if a kit to change the multiplyer on my CPU would be... more risky than useful... >> It's not difficult to unlock an AthlonXP, however IF you can't afford to replace it should something go wrong, I wouldn't do it. Another thing to remember mE_sTiR unlocking does not allow you to overclock higher, rather it'll allow you to raise your FSB higher but by that time you'll probably need new memory. Oh, btw the 8KHA+ allows for up to 3.2V memory voltage, I wouldn't go past 2.8V if you plan to keep your memory for a long time. When you get it, make sure you let us know how well everything goes! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

mE_sTiR

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

just heard, it'll be awhile before he wants to upgrade his board, so i guess im stuck with this one... i also have to keep in mind that my friend lives in texas, and i live all the way in alberta... but anyways... money is a bit limited right now, so, i cant exactly buy things right away... so... i was just wondering i dont know if i mentioned, but, im not exactly sure on everything, like, even my board... i mnot sure if pulling the jumpers out, would result in anything good, or bad... like, im thinkin that the PnP would kick in, and things be more automatic, or manual, or if it would just sto pworking... though, i'd keep the reset jumper in there... just in case... but the rest i'll do some reading and figure out or just take a picture of the computer, and where the jumpers go... and if htings dont work as planned, i'll just look at the picture using the other computer i have sittin there (which BTW, is sorta old its specs: Intel Pentium 3 866MHz 1x128MB 1x64MB 1x32MB MB Ram PC-133 GeForce2 MX (ewww) 40GB HDD so, thats sorta the backup machine... i'll use that to take the picture using the webcam and now, im off topic... anyways wish me luck.. in whatever im doing... i forget now... oh right, pulling all jumpers for no apparent reason...

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< just heard, it'll be awhile before he wants to upgrade his board, so i guess im stuck with this one... >> Haha, that's ok. Your board still should be plenty for most things although the Epox would be better for overclocking. << i also have to keep in mind that my friend lives in texas, and i live all the way in alberta >> When your friend ships the board, just make sure he says that it has no comercial value and you won't have to pay any customs on it. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> It's nice to see fellow Canadian's here mE_sTiR! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> << i dont know if i mentioned, but, im not exactly sure on everything, like, even my board... i mnot sure if pulling the jumpers out, would result in anything good, or bad... like, im thinkin that the PnP would kick in, and things be more automatic, or manual, or if it would just sto pworking... though, i'd keep the reset jumper in there... just in case... but the rest >> I would not remove all the jumpers on your board if I were you. Perhaps you should wait for Shiznit to see this thread so he can give you some pointers with that board. That's not a bad secondary computer... Haha, the GeForce2 MX is not that bad a card, perhaps not the gaming card anymore but it does the job. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Good luck mE_sTiR if you have problems, just refer to your users manual.

mE_sTiR

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

canada rocks, and as per what you said about manual... ... man--you--- alll? err, oh yea... okay, i figured out that pulling all jumpers results in brain death... so, it also turns out that i dont have that many jumpers to pull either a total of 4 jumpers... and one of them is the reset one (the white one :-p) and through trial and error, i figured out that the one beside the Keyboard controller, controls the keyboard... go figure. and than the other 2.. dont know, just have to have them in there i guess... (guess i'll have to read that manual) well, i found a bunch of switches... and i know one is to controll the FSB... i know how to play with that, (id rather use the bios to set that) as for the other one... again that manual will have to tell me... anyways... thanks for the help so far...

Glockillusion

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I'm new to pcstats, here are my system spec's P4 2.2 GHz 512MB PC2100 DDR RAM 3d Prophet FDX 8500 LE 64MB DDR RAM Windows Xp Home Edition 60GB hard drive VIA P4X-266 Series Mainboard 56X CD-Rom drive Philips 19" moniter Realtek 10/100 NIC I have left out some things because I can't remember what they are.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< well, i found a bunch of switches... and i know one is to controll the FSB... i know how to play with that, (id rather use the bios to set that) >> Can't you adjust the FSB in your BIOS? I hate dip switches but then again I guess I'm spoiled. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> Glockillusion welcome to PCStats! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> That's a fine rig you have there. Those P4 2.2 GHz chips are great overclockers I'm sure ya could hit near 3 GHz with it! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Joe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

some new specs <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Epox 8K3A+ XP 2400+ 512megs pc2100 4x 40gig on raid promise sx 4000 raid card (with 256meg cache chip) 20gig wd ATI radeon 9700pro SB Live X gamer 48x liteon cdrw 16x liteon dvd pinnicale pctv tuner card 10/100 431 enermax and here is a old pic of just my case alone <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="http://www.furioustech.com/dragon/4.jpg">

CHE

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Hey Pimpin Joe, where you been man? Good to see ya! Nice specs <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif" border="0"> ...similar to my new specs (see above) <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> Stick around, Colin has some plans for this place I hear. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Damn Pimpin Joe, that's a nice system you got there! Have you tried pusing that baby? << promise sx 4000 raid card (with 256meg cache chip) >> Man, I don't even want to know how much that thing costs! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0"> Very nice case though, it sure is pretty!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> << Stick around, Colin has some plans for this place I hear. >> Hopefully things will be clearer in a bit. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

That looks like one hell of a noisy case!!!!!

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Actually Shiznit, 120mm fans aren't really too loud even if they push 50-60 CFM's! Those case fans would probably only spin at 1500 RPM.

Joe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

it is loud but not that high pitched anoying loud .. its very low pitched. the raid card was around 160 and the 256meg is just normal pc133 .. so its fairly cheap. thanks for the compliments <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> heres a pic of the raid card btw <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> ... <img src="http://images2.newegg.com/productimage/16-102-012-04.JPG"> i would have gone with the sx6000 (6channel ata raid) .. but its was like 250$ <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

Joe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

opps forgot to mention i am running dual 17" monitors and have some klipsch 2.1's <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> also got a logitech mx700 wireless mouse recently .. and i would highly recomend it to anyone <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

So Pimpin Joe what RAID do you run? 5? Is that the one that is expandable? Sorry, I'm not a RAID guy myself. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> Just curious, what do you do that you need so much HDD power? Ya, one of my buddies got the MX700 recently as well, it's totally awesome. Unlike my MouseMan Optical Cordless which has a bit of a delay, the MX700 has none! I gotta get one myself. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

CHE

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

"Just curious, what do you do that you need so much [insert any part here] power?" From you, Colin? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif" border="0"> You've got to be kidding... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Joe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

actually i am running raid 0 at the moment on it. i just picked the card up a few days ago .. so have'nt really palyed with it much. what do i need all the power for? .. hell i dunno lol ... pr0n? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

CHE

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I need it for backing-up p0rn <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> It get's tedious <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< From you, Colin? You've got to be kidding... >> Haha... Ya, I guess that does sound a bit funny. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> << actually i am running raid 0 at the moment on it. i just picked the card up a few days ago .. so have'nt really palyed with it much. >> Oh. That's pretty neat. I use to do RAID 0 myself but then one of my IBM 75GXP's died and I lost all my data. I don't think I'll ever do RAID 0 again. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> So what RAID's does that card support? << what do i need all the power for? .. hell i dunno lol ... pr0n? >> <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Joe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

0, 0-1, and 5

Glockillusion

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Thanks for the welcome Colin, I'm new to overclocking how do I overclock my cpu, your help will much appreciated thanks in advance.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Do you know which model VIA motherboard you have specifically? Of the few VIA PX266's that I have tested, most are ok overclockers. Since teh P4 is multiplier locked, you can only overclock via raising the FSB. Go into your BIOS and look for some FSB adjustments and from there up the FSB slowly. 2-3 MHz at a time until you start to notice some instabiliy and when that happens raise your CPU Voltage. That's basically it. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> What type of cooling are you using?

ElrichMeister

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

ok, im new to these forum things and im new to the pcstats forums. OK im thinking of getting a new processor pretty soon. im thinking of gettin the Xp2400+ but the box of my mobo says can only support the Xp2200+ or 1.8ghz. Would the 2400+ damage my mobo

Glockillusion

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

It's a VIA P4XB-M MicroATX VT82330141CE Mainboard and I think the type of cooling I am using is ACPI, I'll try what you suggested and get back to you, thanks again.

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< ok, im new to these forum things and im new to the pcstats forums. OK im thinking of getting a new processor pretty soon. im thinking of gettin the Xp2400+ but the box of my mobo says can only support the Xp2200+ or 1.8ghz. Would the 2400+ damage my mobo >> Your motherboard is not listed as supporting the new Athlon XP 2400. Even if it did it only supports SDRAM. This would seriously bottleneck your processor and it would limit the performance gain you'd see from it. Because of this it may not be worth upgrading to the new CPU. Your computer is getting near the time when it needs a totally new Mobo/CPU/RAM. Because of this it will be a fairly pricey upgrade, but at least your going up the right path with AMD. That Colin freak that runs this place may try to convince you that Intel is better, but he never seems to know what he's talking about ;-) My advice for you would be to just wait it out as long as possible to do your upgrade (when your computers speeds really pisses you off, you'll reach a point when you can take no more). The longer you wait, the better components you'll be able to buy for the same amount of money. EDIT: Actually, an Athlon XP 2000 only costs between $70 - $80. That would double your CPU speed for a fairly inexpensive price. It would definetly be worth it if it gets you another 6 months out of your computer. Then you can upgrade to the all important AMD ATHLON 64

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< That Colin freak that runs this place may try to convince you that Intel is better, but he never seems to know what he's talking about ;-) >> LOL! I have no loyalties, I simply go with whomever is faster! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ElrichMeister I have to agree with Shiznit here (unfortunately <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">). << EDIT: Actually, an Athlon XP 2000 only costs between $70 - $80. That would double your CPU speed for a fairly inexpensive price. It would definetly be worth it if it gets you another 6 months out of your computer. >> That is probably your best move ElrichMeister. Those lower end Palomino chips are an excellent value now and you should scoop one up if you feel your processor is too slow. << Then you can upgrade to the all important AMD ATHLON 64 >> If you're going to totally redo your entire system by then, I'd suggest you get whatever is the best value at the time! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< f you're going to totally redo your entire system by then, I'd suggest you get whatever is the best value at the time >> Colin is one to talk about "best value"....have him post his sytem specs for ya. When you do buy a new Motherboard/CPU/RAM Combo going for the best value isn't always the smartest thing to do. If you pick out the correct motherboard, it will be with you for quite some time. An example of this...when you bought your MSI motherboard, if you spent a little more on a board that used DDR memory, you'd be able to have your Athlon XP 2400 right now. If you buy cheap RAM, you've got just that, cheap RAM. It won't work nearly as good as slightly more expensive version. CPUs on the otherhand are an area where you can look for best value. There aren't a bunch of manufacturers making AMD's Athlon XP 2400. If there were you'd see them cutting corners so they can save money and sell their products the cheapest. Since only AMD makes them, the quality is the same no matter what XP 2400 you find.

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Shiznit: That looks like one hell of a noisy case!!!!! Colin: Actually Shiznit, 120mm fans aren't really too loud even if they push 50-60 CFM's! Those case fans would probably only spin at 1500 RPM. Pimpin Joe: it is loud >> Someone needs to be quiet if they are not being spoken to... LMAO ;-) I don't know why I've been on a Colin Bashing run lately....so sorry

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Colin is one to talk about "best value"....have him post his sytem specs for ya. >> Haha, Intel and value rarely go together. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> When I put together my main rig however, I wasn't looking for value, I was looking for performance! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> << An example of this...when you bought your MSI motherboard, if you spent a little more on a board that used DDR memory, you'd be able to have your Athlon XP 2400 right now. >> Judging by ElrichMeister's system configuration it's possible that he bought his mobo/cpu before DDR memory as out. Higher quality memory is useless for users who plan to run their FSB's at stock speeds or don't overclock. They only come into play for those who do overclock. Oh, btw Glockillusion I'm in the middle of writing a short P4 overclocking guide that will be posted in the <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://bbs.pcstats.com/pcstats/categories.cfm?catid=52">CPU's and Cooling</a> forum. It should be up sometime today. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< I don't know why I've been on a Colin Bashing run lately....so sorry >> Ya, I have feelings ya know... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> LOL @ Shiznit! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> Haha, that's cool dude we're all having fun!

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Higher quality memory is useless for users who plan to run their FSB's at stock speeds or don't overclock. >> That is far from true....Everyone benifits from the better memory timings that come with higher quality RAM. Two different sticks of PC2100 can have huge performance differences at the same clock speed. If you could have a stick of No-Name PC2100 or a Stick of Mushkin PC2100 for the exact same price, knowing you weren't going to overclock, which would you choose Colin? Colin: The Mushkin of course Shiznit: That's what I thought....point proven

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Actually Shiznit, with everything equal no name memory and name brand memory that run at the same speed performs the same! I would take the Mushkin memory for different reasons because I only like to use quality parts. I actually wrote an <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1027">article</a> about that same subject already! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Hey Glockillusion, you may like the <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://bbs.pcstats.com/pcstats/messageview.cfm?catid=52&threadid=17183">little P4 overclocking guide</a> I just wrote. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< , with everything equal no name memory and name brand memory that run at the same speed performs the same! >> Colin...you didn't read what I said. I said higher quality memory has better memory timings. Two PC 2100 Memory sticks can both be rated for 133Mhz, but the one with better memory timings will perform better. I mentioned this because If you buy the cheapest no-name memory, it will come with a CAS of 2.5 or sometimes even 3. That memory won't even compare to memory with a CAS timing of 2.

Glockillusion

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Hey Colin, Thanks for all your help. I have one more question(sorry it's probably a stupid question) when I go into the BIOS, it needs a password which I don't know, should I ask my supplier for the password or is there way to find it out on the computer.

CHE

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

There should be a reset/disable password jumper on the motherboard. Check the manual. Otherwise you will have to reset the CMOS.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Colin...you didn't read what I said. I said higher quality memory has better memory timings. Two PC 2100 Memory sticks can both be rated for 133Mhz, but the one with better memory timings will perform better. I mentioned this because If you buy the cheapest no-name memory, it will come with a CAS of 2.5 or sometimes even 3. That memory won't even compare to memory with a CAS timing of 2. >> Hmm, that's true there and I understand what you're trying to tell everyone. It's true, I do believe that spending the extra $$$ for quality parts is well worth it (like all things in life, you get what you pay for) but my point of view is, for someone who doesn't overclock they don't need the highest quality memory. Like I mentioned in the article, I recieve several e-mails a week from ppl asking me what to buy when they're not going to oc and they're always shocked when I don't tell them to get the Corsair XMS3500 or Mushkin PC3200 memory. Hey Glockillusion no problems dude! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> CHE is right, check the manual for a possible password disabling jumper, if that fails reset the CMOS. The procedure how to do that will be in the manual as well.

recycle

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Well, I'm new around these parts. When I started working the first thing I wanted to buy was an awsome PC, but I didn't know much about PC hardware at the time. So, here is my rig. 1x Athlon XP 1900+ 1x K7T266 Pro2-U 2x GeIL 512MB PC2700 CL2/CAS 2 1T 1x MSI GeForce4 4600 (two monitors) 1x 20" NEC Monitor 1x 15" Sony Monitor 1x Sound Blaster Audigy Gamer 1x 10/100/1000 Gigabit Card OEM (I think intel) 1x ATI TV Wonder VE 1x 641 Altec Lansing Speakers 2x IBM 50GB (want to raid them but i need a new raid card) 2x WD 1200JB (RAID 0) 1x 16X DVD On-Lite 1x 48x12x48 On-Lite I donno if i'm going to wait till the R330 comes out or if I should get the GeForceFX, but I'm going to go Intel next time around. I'm glad that dual channel DDR is coming around for the Intel platform, but I think I'm goign to wait to upgrade until Doom3 is released because nothing right now pushes my system enough to upset me. I really only play Quake3 right now. This is my first post, and hopfuly not my last one. I have yet to try to overclock my system.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Hey there recycle! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> Welcome to PCStats! That's a pretty sweet system you got there! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> It's difficult to say how the new generation videocards are going to perform. You're best option is a wait and see approach. Shh, don't say "Intel" so loud, some of the other members may jump on ya cuz of that! I have been pretty much ostracized cuz I'm using an Intel rig! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> << I have yet to try to overclock my system. >> That's terrible! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> Haha, recycle check out the <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://bbs.pcstats.com/pcstats/categories.cfm?catid=69">Benchmarks</a> forum, that should make you want to overclock! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> See ya around. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

recycle

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Man, I think you spend too much time on the forums. Its been like two mins since my post... hahahaha Well, I've tried pushing my system some. I still haven't unlocked my AXP. I tried once and I fried that CPU. I though I did everything right, but I think I should have tested it with a voltage meter, but I have been kinda scared about overclocking after that. Luckly I cleaned up the CPU up a bunch and the store took it back, for a full refund. Plus, the motherboard I bought was kinda bargen motherboard. It doesn't really have much for overclocking. I've pushed my videocard as far as I could, but then I went the silent PC route. I have a zalman the full copper one, I think the 6000-Cu, and all my fans under volted. I forgot to include my PSU. I'm using Enermax 431watt. I love my computer. I kinda want a 9700 so i can run 4xAA w/ 8xAS cause it make Q3 look so pretty but I think I need to save some money for college next year. I also want to get a laptop (maybe a tablet). Only time will tell : )

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Actually there was about a 30 min time difference between our posts! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> Hey, this is my forum and I'm trying to build it so of course I'm going to reply quickly!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Did I jump too fast though? Don't want to scare away any new users thinking I'm a "freak". <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> recycle, what did you use as conductive paint? I have never heard anyone fry their processor by unlocking it, thankfully you got a replacement though! << Plus, the motherboard I bought was kinda bargen motherboard. It doesn't really have much for overclocking >> It isn't bad, I did max out the board though when I was testing it. What's the highest you could get with your XP 1900+? << I kinda want a 9700 so i can run 4xAA w/ 8xAS cause it make Q3 look so pretty but I think I need to save some money for college next year. >> Ugh! I can totally understand that my friend! It's not a worth while upgrade from Ti4600 to Radeon 9700. If you're going to spend that much, wait for the next generation cards first!

recycle

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Nah, I didn't think you came on to strong, I mean I kinda like that. J/K. To tell you the truth. I don't remember what I used for the paint. It was like silver in a pen or something. I remember it had a babyblue top. All I know is about 5-6 runs my system wouldn't POST. I was like wtf. I was going to reset the CMOS, but then I could smell the ODER OF DEATH or the smell of a Burned in System. I was kinda upset then I looked at the CPU and I could tell it was burned up. I think I did this around July, but I think I'm going to wait. I heard the new AXP are very easy to unlock. You have to just join two points or something alone those lines, but I really like the fact the my computer is very quiet. I'm using a raidmax cheapo case. Which my girlfriend bought for my birthday. That kinda started the whole upgrade phase i went threw. I started coming to PCstats everyday @ work. My boss would be like what are you reading about now, and since I'm the computer techy I would say I'm looking up new hardware for the company or something along those lines <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> I just love you review colin.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Nah, I didn't think you came on to strong, I mean I kinda like that. J/K. >> Haha, it's all good dude. I was just playing myself as well. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> << I was going to reset the CMOS, but then I could smell the ODER OF DEATH or the smell of a Burned in System >> Hmm, that sounds more like the HSF was not installed properly but I'm not sure to tell you the truth. I know what smell you're talking about, it's not very pleasent! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> << but I think I'm going to wait. I heard the new AXP are very easy to unlock. You have to just join two points or something alone those lines >> Yes, that's correct. With the Thoroughbred, all you have to do is connect the last L5 bridge and you have access to multipliers between 5-12.5x. Hardware addiction is just as expensive as ************************s are! I scared myself last year when I did my income taxes! << I started coming to PCstats everyday @ work. My boss would be like what are you reading about now, and since I'm the computer techy I would say I'm looking up new hardware for the company or something along those lines I just love you review colin. >> Thanks for the kind words recycle! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> I try to be objective in my reviews. I hope I don't get you into trouble though! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Don't want to scare away any new users thinking I'm a "freak." >> Those of us who've been around a lil while already know your a freak. I was at work a little while ago making comments on a few threads and by the time I wrote about 3 comments, the first one was already replied to by Colin. LOL. I think an alarm goes off on his comp when someone makes a post. And by the way recycle....That's a beautifl rig you got there.....AMD all the way!!!!!

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Those of us who've been around a lil while already know your a freak. >> That coming from you goes right to my heart! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> << I was at work a little while ago making comments on a few threads and by the time I wrote about 3 comments, the first one was already replied to by Colin. LOL. I think an alarm goes off on his comp when someone makes a post. >> Haha. No an alarm doesn't go off, I think it's more like ESP. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

recycle

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Man Colin do you just sit around waitin for stuff you review or something?

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Man Colin do you just sit around waitin for stuff you review or something? >> I work full time at PCStats writing reviews, so to answer your question yes I pretty much sit around waiting for stuff to come in. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> I consider myself extremely lucky that I have such an enjoyable job. While I hate getting up in the morning, I always look forward to coming to work! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> To be honest I hate writing. I was never good at it in high school or university, but if I have to write to play with the cool stuff then so be it. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I wish I had your job....I'd even be extremely happy working someplace where I could fix computers, but of course, I'm not in school for that, so I can't get a job doing it <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Shiznit, I wasn't even studying computers at school! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> << I'd even be extremely happy working someplace where I could fix computers >> Nah, you don't want to do that. I did that for a bit and it wasn't that much fun. Working on old Pentium's and cheap ass ppl. It makes ya sick dude. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> What are you studying anyway?

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I'd still like to work on computers instead of my current job now. My major in school is Atmospheric Science (meteorology). It's only my second year, so I have 4 more to go.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Wow, that's cool Shiznit! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Is Meteorology hard? Man, it's hard to work and study at the same time, I know a lot of ppl who can't handle it so good for you! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> What's your job anyway?

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I work in the ICU Department at the local Hospital. I am a monitor tech....I watch heart monitors and make sure people don't die. Atmospheric Science isn't too hard, but then again ask me in 2 years when I'm in Physics IV, and Calculus IV (Differential Equations), and taking 3 Atmospheric classes <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< work in the ICU Department at the local Hospital. I am a monitor tech....I watch heart monitors and make sure people don't die. >> That sounds like a pretty good gig! Is it hard work? << Atmospheric Science isn't too hard, but then again ask me in 2 years when I'm in Physics IV, and Calculus IV (Differential Equations), and taking 3 Atmospheric classes >> Haha, well I hope this place isn't taking time away from your hw! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

It's an okay job...Hard a times, and very boring at other times. Nah, your not taking away from homework time. My Christmas/New Years break funs from Dec 20th until Jan 27th. When are you gonna get a chat room in this place?

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Haha, ya that sounds like a regular job. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> << My Christmas/New Years break funs from Dec 20th until Jan 27th. >> !!! BASTARD! That's an awesome break dude!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0"> << When are you gonna get a chat room in this place? >> Actually I was thinking about that myself but I think I'll wait till tlhe forum is a bit more developed before I start another "project". <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

What do you mean by more developed? We need more people that post constantly. When I'm home I post constantly...well, when I'm home and awake....I sleep til about noon. Come 12 o'clock I fill up the forums with my comments til I go to work at 3. Then I come back on when I get home and midnight and post until about 3-4 AM. To bad I'm the only one here then.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< What do you mean by more developed? We need more people that post constantly. When I'm home I post constantly... >> Yes that;s exactly what we need. Unfortunately it always difficult for a small forum to grow. << ...well, when I'm home and awake....I sleep til about noon. Come 12 o'clock I fill up the forums with my comments til I go to work at 3. Then I come back on when I get home and midnight and post until about 3-4 AM. >> And I appreciate it very much even though we have differences in opinions for most things. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> << To bad I'm the only one here then. >> Ya, I go to sleep early these days 11:30PM-12AM by the latest. I guess it's the cold weather here in Toronto.

mE_sTiR

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Hey! My VERY lucky self has recently come across a large sum of money, and am now gonna upgrade my PC... however, I just want to know if a Dual AthlonMP 2000+ would be... worth my money... and im just not clear as to if its actually stacked (1.63GHz+1.63GHz=3.26GHz) or just two CPU's working together for less stress on the machine (does that make sense to me? :-p ) anyways... I plan to juice my machine to uber good... and thinkin about Dual CPUs not only that, what would you recommend for a mobo? i found a Tyan S2466 Tiger MPX AMD for $369CDN, its supposed to be a Dual CPU compatible... i just dont know if its good... well, if i was gonna upgrade i'd be running a: Dual AthlonMP 2000+ Tyan S2466 Tiger MPX 1GB DDR-2700 (dont know what kind, yet) AOpen GF4 Ti4200 128MB 8x AGP SB Audigy2 Platinum 60Gb HDD LG Combo Drive thats soundin pretty tasty... im also upgrading my Power SUpply to a 520W (largesti could find) and my monitor to a Viewsonic 19" .25 flat. sure beats the 14" im using right now :-/ (i tihnk its 14" i never pay attention to details) but i think i need a new case... hell, i think im building a totally new computer :-p, but a new case... i think im gonna get one from Xoxide... just cause they're really pretty. but, Colin, if you could suggest a good mobo or if anybody knows about the mobo im getting is any good... please let me know... l8ah

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Hey mE_sTiR... What do you mainly do with your computer? Usually only professional applications like Photoshop, 3DS MAX and such can take advantage of dual processor systems. If you mainly game and do some word processing/internet surfing I would stick with a uniprocessor system. Get yourself something like XP 2700+ and an nForce2 based system. << just not clear as to if its actually stacked (1.63GHz+1.63GHz=3.26GHz) or just two CPU's working together for less stress on the machine (does that make sense to me? :-p ) >> Not quite. You see, most software does not recognize or take advantage of a 2nd processor. For those app's the 2nd CPU will just remain idle while the computer is chugging away. You know what, mE_sTiR read my <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1302">HyperThreading</a> article, HyperThreading works on the same concept as dual processor systems. If after reading that you still want to go dual that's cool I'll see if I can give you a hand. The 19" Viewsonic will be a huge difference!!! 14", that's scary dude! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

mE_sTiR

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

lol, thanks... btw, i do use 3ds max 4... but its the educational version, so... i guess it wouldnt be usefull to get the the dual CPU... thanks... hmm as for the nForce... i cant get my hands on one until i get a credit card... and that wont be for a little bit... (maybe a month :-o)... and if i get a CC, than i'll just end up getting the best i can find online... (CDN of course, btw colin, can you help me out?) anyways... thanks for the help... learned alot from the article too... thanks

Joe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Me Stir i would suggest the msi k7d master motherboard for your dual system. its a bit cheaper then tyan and is just as good. and for the ram .. most dual amd systems dont support any more then pc2100 ecc registered ram (you can still use the 2700 .. but its senseless unless you plan to overclock the system)

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

mE_sTiR if you're not a professional animator I don't think going dual would be worth it. Credit cards are evil! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> Haha, They're so convienent, but the bills ad up very quickly. I hope your're respondsible! As for help, I won't be able to cut you any "deals" I don't have many contacts with ronline etailers sorry.

mE_sTiR

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

lol colin i didnt mean contacts... i was more meaning good online stores to buy from... or would the sponsors of PCStats.com be good enough? anyways, i see, AMD 2700+ hey... sounding good... uhmn, its just that i dont want to buy from any American store... or Futureshop, or CompuSmart... or somewhere REAL too retail. just cause prices are too high, and exchange rates just confuse me (cause i dont know what the rates are) so anyways... no dual for me, im probably saving alot anyways.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Oh, sorry about that mE_sTiR! Hmm, probably the best place in Canada to buy parts online is <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.ncix.com/canada/">NCIX</a>. Their prices are very competitive and they got excellent service. Where are you located in Canada anyway? You can give the dealtimes ad on PCStats a shot, but I think they're more for US readers. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

mE_sTiR

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

WEll im close enough to call Edmonton, Alberta home... but... stores are relativly limited to BCOM, Best-Comp (local) and there used to a couple OAGroup (till they folded), and lets see... a compusmart. (4 of em w00t)

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Oh... Well I'm from TO myself. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Go Leafs! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> Well the local store I usually deal with here is <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.canadacomputers.com">Canada Computers</a>. They do mail orders so maybe you'd like to e-mail them. As you can see their prices are pretty good. What did you think of NCIX?

bluegreenshxt

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

ahh..how come i never saw this topic before?? LOL..well here are my specs.. amd xp1800+ (palomino) sapphire radeon 8500 128meg msi kt3 ultra2 256meg samsung pc2700 ddr 333 yamaha speakers w/ subwoofer logitech cordless elite duo lg 40x12x40x cd writer sony dvd rom ( i dunno how fast this is..LOL) daytek 17" lcd mon did i miss anything??

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Missed this topic? It's like the "original" thread....if you've been around that long.

Shufty

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

recent upgrade, after a meltdown,according to my dads pocket and lack of information being passed on to me 2.4 P4 testing @ 3.06 256MB pc2100 Aopen AX4GER Asus GeForce4 Ti4200 OC'ed @ 275/475 Seagate 40 maxtor 80 Matshu************************a 16x DVD lite-on 40/12/40 cd-rw Generic Midi tower (cheers dremel) complete with wobbling front panel 17 '' philips 107e (leftovers) looking for a lian li for my modding hands to get all over.

mE_sTiR

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

NCIX... great, better prices than my local retailer :-p i think im gonna upgrade to SOYO KT400 DRAGON PLATINUM SOCKETA 8XAGP and an AthlonXP 2600+ GAINWARD GEFORCE4 ULTRA/750XP and a thermaltake volcano9 hs/f no morestock for me :-p i like a card that has VIVO now, just cause i want to eventually plug in my game consoles and stuff... (because im makin one helluva system, i dont have enough $ for a TV) also, i think im gonna get a TV PCI thing... but i dont think i'll do it just yet.

Polykranopalous

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Stand back everybody and get ready to be ooooing and owwwwing Duron 900mhz 256mb sdram Radeon 9000 64mb I shall not go on cause I'm sure you guys are all ashamed of your current rig, because you know mine is just too superior, j/k

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Ya, NCIX is pretty good... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> Hey mE_sTiR, get yourself an nForce2 board instead... They're generally faster. I liked the Gainward GeForce4 Ti4600 myself, but I wouldn't buy one either because apparently they're having quality control problems. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> From what I've heard the Volcano 9 is suppose to be pretty good. << I shall not go on cause I'm sure you guys are all ashamed of your current rig, because you know mine is just too superior, j/k >> OMG! Kicks my ass! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Joe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Stand back everybody and get ready to be ooooing and owwwwing Duron 900mhz 256mb sdram Radeon 9000 64mb I shall not go on cause I'm sure you guys are all ashamed of your current rig, because you know mine is just too superior, j/k >> *looks at secondary rig* yup .. you got that one beat atleast <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> duron 800 128megs ram gf2 ti upgrade your ram to 512 and that system will be damn good to play all games ... anything faster then 1gig is just for braggin lol .. update on sys spec of my main rig .. i dropped the raid card .. POS card it was. so now the other machines have some nice 40gig drives in them instead of like 5gig and 15gig drives lol. SCSI raid here i come! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

mE_sTiR

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

well, waddaya think of the MSI GeForce4 TI4600-VTD 128MB DDR i think i've heard something that MSI is a good one... but i forget where... right now, im getting the shipping and everything priced for: · Athlon XP 2600+ · Thermaltake Volcano 9 · Soyo KT400 Dragon Ultra Black Edition · MSI GeForce4 TI4600-VTD 128MB DDR · Logitech Cordless Freedom Optical · Samsung SyncMaster™ 950B · Logitech Wingman Cordless Rumble Pad lol, im checkin everywhere before i pay for anything. must get best price i can... muwuahahaha... canada computers is awesome! i love the pricing... just great... thanks alot Colin

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

mE_sTiR you particularly like nVIDIA cards? The Radeon 9500 Pro is a much better value and it should be faster when you enable AA and AF. If you're willing, you can do a mod to change it to a 9700! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> Check out the videocards forum to see what I'm talking aobut. Ya, Canada Computers has good prices! Probably the best in the Toronto area anyway. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

DeanLowe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Ya, Canada Computers has good prices! Probably the best in the Toronto area anyway. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> >> Sure, but customer service doesn't seem to be their #1 priority.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Sure, but customer service doesn't seem to be their #1 priority. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> >> Haha!!! How would you know about that? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> It's ok for me, as long as I get the stuff I want I'm cool with them. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

mE_sTiR

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

A...T...I? uhmn, Radeon, hmm i've htought about it... but, that would mean switching... but its faster? now im just conflicted.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< uhmn, Radeon, hmm i've htought about it... but, that would mean switching... but its faster? now im just conflicted. >> Yes ... ATi has pretty much solved all their driver problems, I know myself I haven't had any problems with my AIW Radeon 8500 128MB in any games. If you're not into modding, the 9500 Pro is much faster then a Ti4600 if you play with AA and AF! If you don't use them, they'll be about the same speed.

DeanLowe

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

It's all about the Bordens(since we're in Canada<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">) If you've got them and want to be the fastest on your block right now then get the ATI Radeon 9700Pro. If you want to be the fastest for the next 6 Months or so then wait 'till the GeForce FX comes out sometime in the next month or so. Do you have a budget for the system?

mE_sTiR

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

my budget is around $3,000CDN but, i'd like to spend ALOT less than that. as for Radeon 9500, i think i'll try that, its cheaper. and i think i want to mod it... i'll try the software mod first. so, now its... damn i forget what card... but I'll check it out later... thanks alot

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

With $3000 CDN you can get a top of the line system and a good monitor as well! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> GOod luck with your purchases mE_sTiR.

one

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

MY HOME Gaming SyStem 1900xp runs @34C or lower 8ka3+ 520psu thermalright-800/delta80/80fan ocsystem 3200ram-512mw/cooperheatsinks yama 16x dvd liteon 32-12-40 audigy gamer 9700pro/405/690w/heatpipes&vidcard cooler 2 maxtor 60gig raid-0 and a total of 8 fans sunon 80mm high output for case cooling mitsubishi 19in diamond plus 91 flatscreen 13500 plus SE2001 logiteck optical mice<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

dueceinatta

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

There are two that i use - 733mhz P3 TNT2 Vanta 256 sdram 40gig maxtor 7200rpm sblive 5.1 4x4x24 hp cdwriter plus 8x dvdrom and my new system; which currently wont even start because of (i think) a videocard problem (never accidently set your videocard to "do not use this device" in display properties!) P4 2.66 ghz 1gb pc2700 ddr albatron geforce4 ti4200 8xagp mobo - albatron p4pxsomething or other i cant remember the numbers seagate 80gig 7200rpm for music and video and stuff seagate cheetah 15000rpm 18gig boot drive proview 19" flat-panel crt monitor sony 48x24x28 cdrw sony 16x dvd rom sb live 5.1

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

dueceinatta that's a pretty primary system you got there! When you figure out that display problem, make sure you drop by the <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://bbs.pcstats.com/pcstats/categories.cfm?catid=69">Benchmarks</a> forum and post some numbers! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

CygnusX1

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

ABIT AT7 MAX2 XP2700+ MAZE3, Z-Chip NB cooler, Swiftech MCW50, Hydor L30 pump, BIX Pro Rad 512 HyperX PC3500 ATI 9700 Pro MSI 48/16/48 Lite On 16x DVD 2x80 gig Maxtor ATA133 7200 Rpm raid 0 120 gig Seagate SATA150 7200 Rpm 550W Coolmax PSU Custom Modded Cheiftec yellow aluminum case 20" Dell and MSI KT3 Ultra ARU 1700+ T-Bred Swiftech 462+ 512 Kingmax 2700 80 gig WD 7200 rpm 2x20 maxtor ATA133 7200 RPM raid 0 ASUS GF4 4600 SB live 5.1 x-gamer Antec TrueBlue 480W PSU crappy 17"

CHE

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Good God there, Cygnus. Nice. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Hey CygnusX1 nice to see ya around! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> That's a pretty sweet system you got there. How's the HyperX memory? The Xtreme guys keep telling me it's the best, much better then Corsair! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">

CygnusX1

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

i like the hyperx so far...im 'borrowing' it from one of the guys on the site, but may end up keeping it to review. how you like the 120 seagate SATA drive???<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

!!! Damn, I didn't notice the Serial ATA drive! How is it? Did you get it from Seagate for review? So how high have you got your HyperX so far? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

dueceinatta

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Would have never been able to afford my system if it were not for the fact that i have a freind in the wholesale business; my memory only cost me $190, $95 each for 512 of ddr333! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> Previous Post: There are two that i use - 733mhz P3 TNT2 Vanta 256 sdram 40gig maxtor 7200rpm sblive 5.1 4x4x24 hp cdwriter plus 8x dvdrom and my new system; which currently wont even start because of (i think) a videocard problem (never accidently set your videocard to "do not use this device" in display properties!) <<problem fixed i think... i knew it was obvious (safe mode... doy!) havnt fixed it yet; but im confident that will work cuase ive fixed stuff like that before.>> P4 2.66 ghz 1gb pc2700 ddr albatron geforce4 ti4200 8xagp mobo - albatron p4pxsomething or other i cant remember the numbers seagate 80gig 7200rpm for music and video and stuff seagate cheetah 15000rpm 18gig boot drive proview 19" flat-panel crt monitor sony 48x24x28 cdrw sony 16x dvd rom sb live 5.1 I want to get an Audigy2 and a geforcefx sometime in the future... but right now i have a car to pay for(finally... transportation!) and this summer i have my 2nd obsession that guzzles my money... new mtn bike! whats this about pc3500? CygnusX1: "512 HyperX PC3500" wow... and i thought pc3200 was as high as ddr went. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Haha, too many thing ya want, too little $$$ huh? I hear ya buddy. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> What kinda car did you get? dueceinatta actually officially memory can only be rated up to PC2700 becuase that's the latest JEDEC standard, anything higher PC3200, PC3500, PC3700 is all overclocked PC2700 memory. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Kingston's new HyperX can run up to 215 MHz in their labs, thats why they call it PC3500 memory.

ecm1701

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

My signature has most of it. The only thing I don't have there is my Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro, Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer Optical, Altec Lansing ACS-45 Powercube speakers that are about 7 yrs. old, and a Sylvania 17" monitor. I'd get a 21", but I have no room for it on my desk <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

That is one amazing system you go there. Nuthing quite like a high quality, Athlon based system to get the job done.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Hey ecm1701, nice to see ya around! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> That's not a bad system, drop off some benchmarks of that rig in the <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://bbs.pcstats.com/pcstats/categories.cfm?catid=69">Benchmarks</a> forum! I'd say your most required upgrade is a bigger desk my friend! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

CompSnake

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

heres my rig athlon xp 1600+ 512 pc 133 asus gf4mx420 affery 52x cd rom lg 40x12x40 burner panasonic 3.5" Foppy drive 20 gig wester digital ata 100 @5400rpm not sure about my mobo, its a asus with a sis chipset

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Nice rig you got there CompSnake. My last processor as an Athlon XP1600 and for a processor that only ran at 1.4Ghz, it was an awsome performer.

CompSnake

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Nice rig you got there CompSnake. >> your kidding right?

Polykranopalous

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< your kidding right? >> I believe he wasnt... A while back (few weeks) I cant remember who said it, but somebody said I had a good rig....Last time a good rig wasnt: duron 900 256 pc 133 Sapphire Radeon 9000 64mb Atlantic Series some kind of 52x cd rom panasonic 3.5" Foppy drive 10gig not sure what make 7200rpm and some cheap-a$$ mobo

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I'm not kidding. It isn't a gaming rig, but for regular surfin the net/Microsoft office it isn't all that bad. Just the fact that it's AMD gives you a few more points in my book <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

CompSnake

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

of course its amd, i wouldn't have anything less(AKA intel) but i mostly use it for gaming, meeh ill have to save up some cash so i can make it better after i spent most of my money i had last week

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

AMD discussions... CANNOT COMPREHEND!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

zaltec

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

This is my home config: XP 2100+ @2324mhz, Volcano9 HSF 512mb PC3200 GeIL w/heatspeader Soyo Dragon Ultra KT400 (black edition) Radeon 8500 64mb 80gb IBM Deskstar, 45gb IBM deskstar, 40GB Maxtor Live gamer 5.1 + Creative 5.1 speakers Samsung 40x24x40x CD-RW Toshiba DVD 12x KDS 19" flat screen, and a kds 17"LCD in dual display. 3rd display is a zenith, just for gaming tho<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> Wireless saitek gamepad for madden! (they rock!) microsoft fingertip trackball. no mods<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> yet...

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Very nice zaltec! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> Post some Sandra scores of your rig!

IOU

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< AMD discussions... CANNOT COMPREHEND!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> >> HeHee Soon U will CONvert <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

zaltec

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Thanks. I will post some very soon. Home internet is up, and now I just gota get it all sorted...

CHE

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

"Missed this topic? It's like the "original" thread....if you've been around that long." LOL, I been around this forum a few years longer than this thread <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

This thread was started just as I joined in May of last year. This ought to break a team to everyones eye...Colins main rig at the time from his first post... AthlonXP 2000+ Swiftech MC462A with stock Sanyo Denki 53 CFM Fan Abit KR7A-RAID 1 GB PC2100 DDR RAM 2x 80 GB Maxtor D740X 12x Toshiba DVD-ROM 16x10x40 Yamaha CD-RW Retail ATi Radeon 8500 64MB ATi TV Wonder Realtek 10/100 NIC SB Live! Platinum 5.1 Lian Li PC-70 Enermax 550W PSU Viewsonic P810 That was the best system he ever owned!!!

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

LOL... Shiznit, ya that system was solid, but I love my current rig quite a bit more. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> Sure performance is aobut the same, but I kinda got tired of playing with AMD for 2 years.

CHE

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

"LOL... Shiznit, ya that system was solid, but I love my current rig quite a bit more. Sure performance is aobut the same, but I kinda got tired of playing with AMD for 2 years." <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Haha... CHE I just wanted to try something a bit different. Spice up my life. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

zaltec

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

So what's next Colin? Transmeta Crusoë? Via Cyrix? IBM power4?

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< So what's next Colin? Transmeta Crusoë? Via Cyrix? IBM power4? >> Haha... Well if I get a notebook, I can see myself getting a Transmeta... Believe it or not, I actually played with the Mini-ITX Eden (with an integrated 566 VIA/Cyrix). It's ok for wordprocessing but horrible for everything else.

zaltec

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Tell you what, I would pick the Crusoë over almost any other chip for mobile. The added advantage is the fact that Fujitsu uses it<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> The only thing I like better is the P4 mobile with 64 megs ddr video, a gaming laptop. But for the average laptop, the transmeta chip is excellent.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Well Max has one in his laptop and seems pretty pleased with it... But I'll be honest I don't think I'll get another laptop for a while, I don't need the portability. More $$$ to spend on other toys. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

Findarr

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Ok, here goes. Starting with MY (current) system: P3 1.0 G currently @ 1050 512 M pc133 sdram Asus CUSL2 Gainward GeForce3 Ti 200 OC'ed @ 200/450 IBM 60 Gig HD WD 13 Gig HD WD 100 Gig (removable) Toshiba 16X DVD Lite-ON 40/12/40 CDRW Inwin Q-500 full tower (early model) 19 '' Mag Innovision Monitor The Wifey's system: P3 700 512 M pc133 sdram Tyan Socket 370 (salvaged from a MicronPC system) Asus Geforce 2mx 32 M WD 20 Gig HD X 2 Toshiba 40X CDROM Sanyo 16X CDRW Inwin S-500 (?) case- Looks like Q-500 only Mid tower 19" Optiquest(Viewsonic) Monitor Kidz system: P2 350 256 M pc133 sdram Abit BH6 ATI Rage128 32 M WD 10 Gig HD Toshiba 32X CDROM Enlight case 17" Impression Monitor Wifey's OLD laptop Compac LTE 5300 Pentium 133 32 M EDO ram ( I got it used for $250 US including the docking station, 3yrs ago, lol) Wifey's NEW laptop (the latest and greatest pc in the house, hehe) Sager Notebook NP5600s 2.53 G P4 Northwood 512 M PC2100 DDR Radeon 9000 Mobility 64 M 40 Gig 5400 RPM HD 8X DVD/CDRW combo drive 15 " UXGA display All networked together (hard wired) Findarr