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ADRAMELK
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
I was thinking of upgrading (my student loan came in, and Im borrowing books), I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this chipset. I found it for $220 with an Athalon XP 2100+ in it.

Colin
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
ADRAMELK! Long time no talk dude!<BR><BR>A KLE133 is not an upgrade on what you currently have, the KLE133 is slower then the SiS735... First, if I were you, I'd spend the money on school <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> but if you really need a hardware fix, try upgrading to DDR memory and a faster processor... If you get an XP CPU and it's a Palomino, get an AGOIA based one and you're all but guarenteed 1.8GHz+! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"><BR><BR>How about a videocard? Those Radeon 8500's are excellent values as is the GF4 Ti4200! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

ADRAMELK
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
aite, I got an idea.... I hate my motherboard, I hate it so much you can have it. I want to get a new one, and just put all my existing stuff, including the t-bird in my new one. I was thinking about spending a little money and getting something decent, maybee an ASUS or an ABIT. Maybee DDR slots but I dont wanna spend money on new RAM. What do you think?

ADRAMELK
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
Damm DDR is cheaper than i thought .... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Colin
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
Haha... <BR><BR>HOw much do you want to spend on a motherboard? Do you need a board with onboard devices? Ya DDR is pretty cheap these days! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

ADRAMELK
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
Ill spend over $100 for a real good board. I need no onboard devices.... espically video, that makes me mad... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

Colin
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
Well my personal favorite AMD motherboard is the Epox 8K3A+... On Pricewatch it's pretty cheap can be had for around $75 and that's with RAID! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> It has onboard audio but not a big deal, it also has 6 PCI's. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"><BR><BR><a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1117">Here</a> we reviewed it.

ADRAMELK
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
Thats pretty nice... me likes the 6 PCI's. <BR><BR>I like the Port 80 diagnostic thing.<BR><BR>Im glad it doesnt have a dumm AMR slot.<BR><BR>RAID 0+1, wierd, never even knew that existed, but what a pain in the ass. To use the RAID IDEs my devices have to be RAID too though right?<BR><BR>2/5th AGP and 1/5 PCI divider, whats that?<BR><BR>...the performance is honestly not as impressive as it should be with the KT333 chipset... but its still your favorite?<BR><BR>Why all the overclocking features in the BIOS but not that great overclocked performance?<BR><BR>The benchmarking tests make for a very solid board from what I can tell.<BR><BR>Thats the first artice of yours I have read Colin, very nice. I might buy this board, im gonna go price it right now.

ADRAMELK
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
Think that Epox will put out a BIOS that can change the dividers?

Colin
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
<br><br><< <i>2/5th AGP and 1/5 PCI divider, whats that? </i> >><br><br> Those are dividers that allow your PCI and AGP to run at stock speeds at a 166 MHz FSB.<BR><br><br><< <i>...the performance is honestly not as impressive as it should be with the KT333 chipset... but its still your favorite? </i> >><br><br> You're right the performance isn't that impressive relatively especially when compared to the KT266A based motherboards, but they will officially work with 166 MHz based Athlon's should they come out. <br><br><< <i>Why all the overclocking features in the BIOS but not that great overclocked performance? </i> >><br><br> That's due to the PCI/AGP dividers. When they run faster, information gets to those devices quicker. At 166 MHz+ FSB's, the AGP/PCI are much closer to spec then with teh KT266A that doesn't have the dividers. <br><br><< <i>Think that Epox will put out a BIOS that can change the dividers? </i> >><br><br>I sure hope so. They haven't yet, but I'm lobbying them to. I just noticed that the Abit KX7 has adjustable PCI dividers. You might be interested in that board as well!<br><br><< <i>Thats the first artice of yours I have read Colin, very nice.</i> >><br><br>Thanks! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

ADRAMELK
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
I went ahead and bought the Epox 8K3A. I didint get the RAID version because I have no devices that support it anyway, and this will be my last hardware fix for a while..... Also got me a nice 512 stick of PC2700.... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

ADRAMELK
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
Well maybee a new video card.... but after that no more hardware.... credit card is gettin maxed out <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Colin
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
Ooo... Very nice ADRAMELK! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> It's much faster then what you're using right now! You should be happy.<BR><BR>Ya, you need a new videocard but after you're set!<BR><BR>You gonna try overclocking your CPU a bit now? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">