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Comixion
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
I come up with another one.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"><BR><BR>No matter how insignificant,,or dumb<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"><BR><BR>I want to be on top of it before I buy all I need for a rig this time around.<BR>Got my case, CPU, Ram, HDD,periphials, Video card, finally the Mobo (phew)<BR>Now on to CPU cooling...........<BR><BR>What I wanna try to steer clear of this time around is a 60mm fan screaming at me 24/7 i.e. Delta yaddayadda, being that<BR>I have a wife that usually takes care of that. I dont need 2 devices (a tongue, a Delta fan) working in unison together at any<BR>given time threatening my most vital sense...my hearing.<BR><BR>After days of perusing reviews on HSF's, I see the Thermalright AX-7, Swiftech MCX462 etc..take advantage of the more quieter 80mm<BR>fan.<BR>Although these fans are quieter than the higher rpm 60mm's, are they as good as cooling? Yes, they say they are but advise from<BR>someone who has used one would satisfy my curiosity.<BR>The Deltas can do anywhere from 5000rpm up to 7000. now thats yelling at ya. My previous HSF was CAK38 w/ Delta @ 6800rpm..Ouch!<BR><BR>A Thermalright AX-7 w/ an adjustable 2900rpm-4000rpm 80mm clear fan is an option I'm looking at, or a swiftech MCX462 (nice) with the same,,but alot higher in $$$. Is this enough to keep a XP1900-2100 CPU at decent temps.? My case will have 2 fans in rear and 2 in front, plus a HDD cooler (havent decided on what type yet) plus another intake fan in the HDD rack. The rounded cables will help on ergonomics/airflow etc. I hope. I decided against a side blowhole in the window.<BR><BR>So there you have it. I wanna touch all bases to insure a "cool" case and all the wonders inside it.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"><BR><BR>You can insert your suggestions right down there.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"><BR><BR>Thank you very much, Drive through to the first window.

CygnusX1
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
comixion, keep the questions comin...<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> I wish i had experience with the thermalright or the swifty...but alas i am still using my trusty CAK38 w/ delta screamer, and i am going to h2o cooling this weekend.. I LOVE my CAK...my suggestion, get a fan adaptor ($11), and the fan ($10ish) & grill ($15 for the alien head) setup you want and throw it on the 1900...my CAK keeps my idle temps around 4-5 degrees above ambient. ambient-29c, idle-34c, load-40-43c. <BR><BR>good luck, and remeber, no pickles...

Colin
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
Haha, Comixion, I loave answering questions! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> I thought you knew that!<BR><BR>The Thermalright AX-7 is cheaper then the Swiftech but it won't perform as well... I haven't used it myself so I'm not sure how much a performance difference it would be.<BR><BR>Myself, I'm using the older Swiftech MC-462A with a 41 CFM Sunon now and it keeps my XP2000+ at around 40 degrees as well. If I were you, I'd get the MCX-462 OEM (heatsink only) and get a mid CFM fan like the Sunon... The standard 68 CFM Delta is quite loud, almost to the decibel level of the 60mm delta but with no high pitch.<BR><BR>Oh as for CPU, don't get a XP2100+ if you plan to unlock it and overclock... Unlocking the 2100+ is a real pain in the <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1009">ass</a>. Just get a chip with the stepping AGOIA and you'll be set. 1.8 GHz+ no problem with regular air cooling! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

Comixion
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
so you wouldnt say get the XP1900 AGOGA? I hear so many diff. opinions on it.

Colin
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
If the AGOGA XP2000+ is any indication on how well these chips overclock, then you'll hit your limit at around 1.8 GHz. That's was the top speed I could reach. Our XP1900+ AGNGA also maxed out at around 1.8 GHz.<BR><BR>Of the 2 AGOIA's I;ve played with (XP2100+, XP1700+) both did 1.9 GHz.

Comixion
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
At the risk of sounding ignorant.......now I'm confused. so is that a no-no on the AGOGA?<BR><BR><BR><BR><< <i>"AGNGA"</i> >><BR><BR> aint heard of that 1. <BR><BR>As for the Swiftech MCX462...wow! that a $55 heatsink alone! I hope its worth it.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">

Colin
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
That's cool man! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"><BR><BR>AGNGA is an older stepping then AGOGA... When the XP1900+ was first introduced, it was using that stepping... AGOGA was introduced with the XP2000+.<BR><BR>Ya, that heatsink is pretty expensive, but it's worth it man!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Top notch performance!

CygnusX1
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
well i just got some rma's today...my fic ad11 came back, and my 1700... so now i have:<BR><BR>1800: agoga y unlocked and in rig now...<BR>1700: agoga 4 locked just got it today<BR>1700: agoia y locked been sitting here...<BR><BR>i guess i should unlock the agoia and give it a run...<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"><BR><BR>

Colin
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
Gawd, YES, UNLOCK THAT CPU!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"><BR><BR>I wonder how high you can get that with you rwater setup...

GNXtreme
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
Noise is not a concern of mine...so I like the coolermaster HHC-001. I also have 10 fans running on my machine....1 front intake, 1 door intake(92mm), 2 exhaust(80mm),1 80mm on hdd, 2 50mm on hdd, 1 on the chipset(40mm), 1 on cpu(60mm) and of corse the 400w ps has one 80mm.

Colin
06-15-04, 02:25 PM
I use to be like that as well... My Lian Li PC-70 came with 4 27 CFM Adda fans I swapped them all out for 4 43 CFM Sunon's and had about 8 other fans in my system... It's not gotten to a point where the noise drives me crazy! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> The actual db level of my computer now is less tehn that of 1 60mm delta and I still think it's too loud. Maybe i'm burnt out! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">