Folding@Home Tweak... [Archive]

Juggles

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Well I have set my Little PIII 1gig laptop to run the prog at 90% resources..  24/7 !!!  WTH, its for a good cause.. and maybe We can convert an AMD lover back towards the little chip from Intel!  (Sorry.. didnt realise I could type in my sleep!  <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ) What a waste of a 15 inch screen!  <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> Greets from Hannover

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Juggles great to have you aboard!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

TranceJunkieXL

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Okay, so how long does it take for a completed job to post? My slow hunk of tin worked all weekend on this and just finished about 25 minutes ago. I only see Colin in the PCStats folder. I even triple checked that I had signed up on team 13496......... Just y'all wait until I have my new aluminum cruiser up and running!LOL. BTW Shiznit, here's another AMD on your side!<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

TranceJunkieXL

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

TranceJunkieXL

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I see Shiznit just posted his first fold. Wow, that jumped us 20 or so on the listings. I just checked the log and noticed that it only tries to send the completed work once before getting a new job. Shut 'er down and restarted and it should be posting (bottom of the list, no doubt-LOL) shortly. Won't have to do that anymore (restart) when the cable guys come install my new modem. Guess I'll be leaving the 'puter on while I'm away at work so you two don't leave me too far behind. Oh yeah, and when the new machine is up I'll just create a new username so you won't have to worry about separating results - <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

It takes quite a while to post. I just posted my first one and currently my computer is working on the 3rd protein for team PCStats. I did 8 for Maxiumum PC before we got this team going.

Juggles

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Looks as though i may have to eat my words regarding the Intel V AMD debate.  My p3 has been working the whole weekend, and i am still only at 47% <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">  oh well!  Hopefully it's worth a few points!  LOL

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

You could be working on a big protein, they come in different sizes. It'll say WU progress and give a fraction. Some are XX/100, XX/200, XX/400. 400 is the biggest I've seen so far and I just finished one. It isn't on the scoreboard yet but hopefully if Colin does a small one as his second one, it'll put me ahead of him. He got an unfair headstart <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

rithemking, Juggles nice to have you onboard! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> Damn rithemking what type of rig do you have? LOL, looks like I may have to put my test rig to work to beat ya as well! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

TranceJunkieXL

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<<Damn rithemking what type of rig do you have?>> just that 2-year old HP XL-768 that has been giving me headaches trying to upgrade to the "maximum 512Mb" PC100 SDRAM. AMD 900MHz.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< <<Damn rithemking what type of rig do you have?>> just that 2-year old HP XL-768 that has been giving me headaches trying to upgrade to the "maximum 512Mb" PC100 SDRAM. AMD 900MHz. >> Oh yes... NOw I remember! Damn, very impressive for a Athlon 900!

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

He must have got a good protein. I'm getting big ass ones that take forever to process, then I'm not getting ************************ in return for them.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Just a tip to fellow folders, listening to MP3's severely slows folding@home. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Folding@Home utilizes idle CPU cycles so if you even move your mouse, it slows down.

Canadian-Guy

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Sorry newbie alert: Whats a WU? is it the number of hits in the top left corner? (mines at 136) or the ligands??? (28)

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

A WU is a folded protein.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Folding@Home utilizes idle CPU cycles so if you even move your mouse, it slows down. >> Yes I know that, but on my machine it almost stops folding all together! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Ahhh....quit using programs that steal so much of the CPU away from folding. UT does that to me alot.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Haha. Well honestly I find that I'm changing my computing habits to suit Folding@home now!

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

lol....I'm not. I still use my computer for gaming like I normally would. When I'm online surfin the net just replying to these messages, it folds at about 80% of the speed it would if I wasn't on the computer so that's not so bad. Can you get to the stats page? It keeps telling me page unavailable.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

To be honest I haven't been doing much gaming on my computer tehse days other then some raven Shield... I play my PS2 more! No, I can't see the stats page either, I think their server is down.

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

PS2...ahhhh...what crap! XBox!!!!!

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

haha... Serious dude. Honestly I think games these days focus too much on "3d graphics" and trying to dazzle the user... Gameplay and stories have suffered because of this I think.

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I agree with you somewhat that gameplay isn't what it used to be, but at the same time there have been massive improvements in some gameplay areas. Go from Mario Brothers to GTAIII. Big difference in both graphics and gameplay. Actually, I can attribute this to the fact that gameply got a huge boost with the advent of the 3D Map/World.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

That's true, but what aobut stories? Before games didnt' have the luxury of having good graphics, they needed an awesome store to capture the players... Don't get me wrong, there are still some pretty awesome games out there but they're few and far beyond. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I dunno about stories. When I play UT2003, I could really care less about a story. I just wanna have fun and see some awsome graphics.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

That's true, FPS's usually don't need a great story as long as they have good game play, but I play lots of other games as well... For instance, I'm a big RPG fan, but FFX was horrible! They don't really let you play the game, rather you follow the story, fight a few monters here and there and see a lot of graphics. For me it was easily the worst RPG I have ever played. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Shiznit's Folding@Home Tweak Hit the {Ctl}{Alt}{Del} keys and then go under the tab "Processes." Right click on Fah_Core65.exe (A.K.A. Folding@Home) then go down the menu to "set priority" and select "high." This will allow F@H to still run and perform rather well while your surfind the net, and using other non-intensive applications. Please not that if you accidently choose "Realtime" your computer will freeze and you'll have to do a cold reboot. This tweak is 100x better than anything Colin has to offer, so disreguard his comments. If you don't believe me look at the stats page.......AMD all the way!!!

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Well thank you very much for the tweak... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I finally decided you are worthy of my tweak <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Haha... Shiznit, I tried it on my work PC which is a P3 800EB and it almost died! LOL, if I set it to anything above normal it starts to choke! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

lol. Told you that those 3rd world computers you were going to put together wouldn't give you much help. They'll probably give you more problems than help. It'll show you using 5 computers, but only one of them will be doing anything <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I do have another computer I can use now if the going gets tough against you. My Brother-in-law will let me run it on his Athlon XP 2200/512DDR/GeForce4Ti4200 Rig. He only uses it for like an hour a day, so it will have plenty of time to process <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

LOL... Well all I gotta say is, the more machines we have the better it is for the team! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> We should all put our petty differences aside! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT JUST CUZ I'M "LOSING". <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

"AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT JUST CUZ I'M "LOSING". " ~Colin Suuuurrreeee <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Haha, I'll be honest though F@H kinda makes me want to ditch my Intel rig! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Change your rig because of a small program that is supposed to be running in the background....you got problems <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Juggles

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Justa quick tip if you are running F@h on a second machine, Make sure the proxy server is switched on! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0"> Otherwise it ditches the completed folded protien when it doesnt get a response inside of 24 hours!  Either that, or my 400 protein is lost in the depths of the Internet!  May just run this baby up on my P4 for the hell of it!

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Every once in a while F@H will pause/freeze/crash and you will lose your protein. This may be what happened to you. Hopefully it won't happen again for a while. It's already happened to me twice and Colin once since we started. I'm at 387/400 right now...it better not crash on me <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Haha << Change your rig because of a small program that is supposed to be running in the background....you got problems <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> >> Haha! Shiznit, it's all your fault man!!! Now I feel like overclocking my P4 higher. Juggles, F@H is very fragile... If your system crashes all your work is gone. I hope your data reaches the Stanford servers!

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Damn it!! The last protein I did, I got less than 1 point for it!!! WTF. I saw someone get 0.78 for their first one, but forgot who it was. I like how Colin and I almost have the same # of WU's done, but my score is higher <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

roy

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Wow, Colin, FFX sucked? I am having seconds thoughts on wanting to play it. But I totally agree with you. It's all like fancy effects and no story. I was reading an article in SomethingAwful yesterday about how games are so complex you gotta do a load of tasks, just to accomplish one task, only to move on to the next. It was a funny and true article. It's like game developers are just trying to fill in the space with mindless quests and side quests. But RPGs are hard to make, the good ones only come once in a while. I think the last great RPG I've played was Chrono Trigger for SNES. Almost done with my first WU. Damn, this was gonna take longer than I thought. And yeah, it froze up on me once. I just paused it, closed the program and when I reopened it the process continued. However, it did seem to crash my system once. But then again, I had that running, Kazaa, some web browsers, and I was trying to play a DivX. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

recycle

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

If you want to see how many points you are getting for a WU, <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://folding.stanford.edu/psummary.html">Click Here</a>. This is a list of all the WU that are out there you can work on. It also give the timeout on WU. So if your computer is too slow, and doesn't finish the WU in time, no credit will be awarded. Just something to think about when you are running a really old/slow system for folding. I'm about to get 2 more 1800+ under my belt. So you guys better watch out ; )

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< Damn it!! The last protein I did, I got less than 1 point for it!!! >> Ya that happened to me too... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> Does anyone know how the point system works anyway? Is it the faster your computer finishes the WU the more points you get? << Wow, Colin, FFX sucked? I am having seconds thoughts on wanting to play it. But I totally agree with you. It's all like fancy effects and no story. I was reading an article in SomethingAwful yesterday about how games are so complex you gotta do a load of tasks, just to accomplish one task, only to move on to the next. It was a funny and true article. It's like game developers are just trying to fill in the space with mindless quests and side quests. But RPGs are hard to make, the good ones only come once in a while. I think the last great RPG I've played was Chrono Trigger for SNES. >> Ya, I was very with teh game, but then again I didn't like FF 8 or 9 much either. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> Chrono Trigger was an awesome game! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> They brought it to the PS one and I was thinking about playing it again myself... Damn recycle! You're totally leaving everyone else in the dust, congrat's man! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

TranceJunkieXL

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I think so far my fav FPS storyline has been on No One Lives Forever (both 1 and 2). Anyone else had a go at those?

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

NOFL was alright... I'll be honest though, I haven't played many PC games lately... More of a console guys these days! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">

recycle

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

How do you decide how much credit a work unit is worth? How do you determine how many points a work unit is worth? Before putting out any new work unit, we benchmark it on a dedicated 500MHz Celeron machine (this machine does not have SSE/3DNow). We plug the results of this into the following formula: points = 2 * multiplier * (daysPerWU) where daysPerWU is -- no surprise -- the number of days it took to complete the unit. How do you set the deadlines for the work units? Each work unit is benchmarked on a dedicated 500 MHz Celeron machine without SSE/3DNow. We look at how many days it takes, and multiply this by 2.5. This corresponds to requiring such a machine to fold less than 10 hours a day in order to meet the deadline. From our experience, the majority of donor machines are faster than our benchmarking machine, and virtually none are slower, so this shouldn't be a problem (if a machine is slower, it may need to fold more hours a day). Occassionally, deadlines may be set longer than the above calculation indicates, but the reason for having deadlines at all is that the sooner we get back work units, the sooner we can put the results to good use. We are looking into, in the very near future, having the assignment server take machine speed into account in making assigments, thereby allowing slower machines to receive smaller work units.

Polykranopalous

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

sorry to steer a little off the topic, but... a 500mhz celeron computer, that reminds me of my old EMachine, that peice of sh*t machine...hopefully your treating it better than i did<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

recycle

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Hey Polykranopalous, where did you get "Turn off your cell phone!" ? in your sig

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

recycle, thanks for the explanation... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> As for the siggy thingy, he put it in the sample place you put your Just some guy thing... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

roy

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

Woohoo, 2WUs and counting. << They brought it to the PS one and I was thinking about playing it again myself... >> I had a go at that myself, but I didn't really get into it and eventually sold my PSX. I still have the game though, if you wanna purchase it for much cheaper, lemme know.

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Well roy I'm saving for a new car right now so I'm putting all my toy purchases off. Perhaps in teh summer I'll take up your offer! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

You putting off your purchases saves me money :-) I don't have to keep my AMD rig as up to date to keep up with your Intel rig if you upgrade less <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> I can see it now, this summer we'll be building Hammer rigs together <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> If you do that, there will be no Intel strong hold in these forums anymore <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< You putting off your purchases saves me money :-) >> Hmm... Is that right eh? Well maybe I'll spend just a bit more then! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> << I can see it now, this summer we'll be building Hammer rigs together If you do that, there will be no Intel strong hold in these forums anymore >> I most certainly will go Hammer if it's clearly better then Intel's offerings! Of course I will still defend Intel if they're attacked! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I was Just reading an article about the Hammer and the 1.4Ghz Hammer runs quiet a bit cooler than the P4 2.2Ghz, and I'm sure it has a performance rating slightly above the 2.2Ghz mark. AMD will soon be your choice if you want a cool/quiet system, that will most likely overclock well and give you more bang for your overclock <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Colin

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> That's awesome news! I'm glad to see AMD is finally on the ball about their processor's thermal issues! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

BAM!

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

shiznit when you change the priority to high, do you change the priority within the F@H configuration to "slightly higher" too?.. or do you leave it at the default low priority.

bluegreenshxt

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

<< shiznit when you change the priority to high, do you change the priority within the F@H configuration to "slightly higher" too?.. or do you leave it at the default low priority. >> setting the priority to high doesnt do any thing..because fah only uses the idle cpu %..so high or low..it will only use the % that is not used by your other processes (im positive on this cause i checked their faq)

Avid6eek

06-15-04, 01:25 PM

I leave core priority to Low, and make sure the CPU usage thingy is all the way to 100%. Changing F@H's priority to high makes it run over all the other WinXP processes. If you have WinXP and you leave your computer alone, it starts doing it's old thing, rearranging files, and all sorts of stuff. Putting F@H on high priority stops that, because then Windows only does what is absolutely necessary.