xp 2400

[FTO]

Hihi, I was wondering if anyone knows what's the best clock they can get using the new ASUS nforce2 deluxe board with DDR 400 ram?? without modding voltage. Anyone know if the BIOs has multiplier settigns?<BR>

[FTO]

[Avid6eek]

I do know that the BIOS do in fact have the multiplier settings, but you must first unclock the CPU to use it.

[Colin]

FTO, Shiznit is correct... You have to connect the last L5 bridge to access multipliers 5-12.5x.<BR><BR>From what I've seen, the later XP 2400+'s overclock very well. FTO look for an AIUHB stepping and you should be able to hit 2.4 GHz easy on air! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

[Avid6eek]

Colin needs to quit repeated what I already said!

[FTO]

LOL, all help is good help =), even if it's repeated eh? haha...

[FTO]

Well, I have been plannning to upgrade since last summer...but been too lazy to...well i have finally planned to upgrade this spring, after the geforcefx and new amd chips come out....so I was just asking some questions on advanced =)<BR>

[Avid6eek]

FTO....if your not a member of the PCStats Folding@Home team, you need to get on it! I don't see your name in there.

[FTO]

what's the folding@home team, lol

[Avid6eek]

Go the the forum mainpage and there will be one about the PCStats Folding@Home

[Colin]

<br><br><< <i>Colin needs to quit repeated what I already said! </i> >><br><br>Well Colin is the master overclocker right? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> Just reaffirming what you said jesus! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

[Avid6eek]

Of course your the master overclocker. You P4 users have to do something to keep up with us Athlon guys <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

[Colin]

Hey! I have an AMD test bed as well which I overclock! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> I am both an Intel <b>and</b> AMD master overclocker! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

[Avid6eek]

Colins head gets bigger and bigger everyday <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

[Colin]

Haha! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> No, I'm very modest!!!

[CompSnake]

does thats mean i have to unlock my 1600+ to over clock it even if im doing it threw the bos using the fsb and the voltage?

[Joe]

the asus nforce 2 board supposedly unlocks the mult. but with the stock bios it does not. there is a 3rd party bios floating somewhere on the net that will let this option work. from what i hear the 3rd party bios works very well. so its either unlock the chip itself or hack your bios with a non asus produced bios.

[CompSnake]

im not gettin an asus mobo, im gettin a msi k7n2-l

[Colin]

CompSnake yes you will need to unlock your XP 1600+ to have multiplier controls. It's not a hard procedure to do, but there is the possibility of killing your processor.<BR><BR>T-Bred's are multipler <b>unlocked</b> by default, but there seems to be a lot of confusion on what that actually means. Any T-Bred XP 2000+ <b>or lower</b> has full control of multipliers between 5-12.5x. T-Bred's XP 2100+ or higher are multiplier unlocked as well, <b>however</b> they can only use multipliers from 13x and up (to 25x I think...). The only way a T-Bred that is faster then 2100+ can use 5-12.5x multipliers is if they connect the last L5 bridge.

[CompSnake]

wanna do it for me?

[Colin]

... No, I don't do that but I know a guy who use to unlock processors for like $30-$40... Let me see if he still does that stuff.

[FTO]

anyone know any nforce2 boards with serial ata and/or ide raid support....

[Colin]

<br><br><< <i>anyone know any nforce2 boards with serial ata and/or ide raid support.... </i> >><br><br>I believe MSI has a K7N2 with both serial ATA and IDE RAID. The Asus A7N8X does as well... How much are you looking to spend FTO?

[Avid6eek]

ABIT NF7-S ,nForce2 SPP chipset Support AMD Socket A with 200/266/333 FSB ,8X AGP,SATA 150 ATX motherboard Retail....$128<BR><BR>That board has a lot of features and is pretty cheap for an Abit board. That would be the way to go right there.

[BAM!]

Colin did you just say T-bred from 2100+ above are unlocked????? !!!!!! you mean all of them???? i wanna get one. so i can use it to increase my multiplyer to overclock<BR><BR>-bam!

[Colin]

Howard BAM! yes all T-Bred's are unlocked. It's just which multipliers do you want to access. XP 1700+-XP 2000+ T-Bred's have access to 5-12.5x multipliers while XP 2100+ to XP 2800+ can use multipliers 13x and above. For the faster processors to access the <b>lower</b> multipliers you have to connect the last L5 bridge.

[BAM!]

does that apply to any T-bred A core and B core?..... so i can just go to new egg and buy any 2000+ and above and i'l be able to change the multiplyer to 12.5 and higher?..... i just wanna make sure... cause i might do that<BR><BR>-bam!

[BAM!]

also you guys know what's the safest range for overclocking AthlonXP 2600 and 2700 throughbred. i heard 2800 isn't a good overclocker. can a 2600 easily hit 2.4 GHz easy with stabiliy using multiplyer?<BR><BR>-bam!

[Colin]

Howard BAM! that applies to all Thoroughbred's... If you buy a T-Bred (A or B) XP 2000+, you can only use multipliers between 5-12.5x. If you set it to 13, your system will probably not POST.<BR><BR>From what I have seen, if you get the <b>right stepping</b> you're set in terms of overclocking. If you're going to be buying, look for an AIUHB stepping. They apparently can go to 2.5 GHz easy on air! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> AIUHB's can be found a slow as XP 2100+ so far.

[BAM!]

that's TITE!!!!.. thanks colin. <BR><BR>-bam!

[Colin]

<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> Nice, I expect to see some nice overclocks from you Howard BAM!

[FTO]

Oh....so the asus board has both ide and sata raid right? cause on some reviews it say only has SATA raid

[Colin]

Honestly FTO I'm not sure... I know the Asus has both Serial and regular IDE ports, but the RAID may only be for Serial ATA... Which RAID will you be using?

[BAM!]

Colin, i looked at Newegg's site and found that only one of their T-bred is the stepping you are talking about. i looked at the CPU picture and read off the stepping number next to the die. some of the rest they don't show you the picture or it's a retail they just show you the picture of the box. and in the detail section they don't mention anything about stepping too. i was hoping i could find a higher frequency CPU with the stepping you're talking about. can you give me some reference!<BR><BR>-bam!

[Joe]

from what i have seen, only sata raid is on nforce2 motherboards.

[Colin]

Howard BAM! I doubt you'd be able to get a guarenteed stepping from any online retailer... Your best bet would be to go to your local computer store. That's what I would do anyway.<BR><BR>From what I have heard, most XP 2100+ T-Bred's coming out of Newegg are AIUHB's, but I have also heard they are some JIUCB and AIRGA which are no where as good!

[BAM!]

hey colin, say if i got the 2100+ T-bred and overclock it by increasing the multiplyer do i also need to give the Vcore more voltage too?<BR><BR>-bam!

[Colin]

Howard BAM! it's more beneficial for overall performance if you raise your FSB as well as maintaining a high CPU speed... Usually the lower multipliers are more useful.<BR><BR>Yes I'm sure you will have to raise the CPU voltage when overclocking to high speeds... Don't worry, 1.75V-1.85V will not kill your processor! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

[BAM!]

ok Colin, this is it. i am about to buy that processor. so ARE YOU SURE that the 2100+ T-bred is unlocked and will allow me to access multiplyer 12.5 and higher. IS THAT YOUR FINAL ANSWER. here is a link to the processor which i am about to buy <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduct.asp?description=19-103-370&depa=1">Click</a> on the image link.. and it'll show you the stepping which is the one you've been telling me about. AIUHB. <BR><BR>by the way. how come those reviews that you wrote on pcstats about the 2100/2000+ throghobred said that they're locked. <BR><BR>-bam!!!

[Colin]

Yes, the 2100+ T-Bred is unlocked and you can use 12.5x and higher multipliers. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> <BR><BR>The XP 2000+ T-Bred was unlocked, I could change the multiplier on that, but the XP 2100+ was "locked" becasue the motherboard being used did not have the ability to select multipliers above 13x. I didn't know how to unlock it back then either.