You Call This A Source Code Category?

[Lakario]

Hmmmm, I have yet to see any source code here so in the spirit of programming, let's all find out what people like to code in.<BR><BR>I myself am a HTML/CSS/JavaScript/PHP/MySQL buff and I also spend some time here and there on C++ and Perl. What about you guys?

[roy]

I only know HTML and a little CSS. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

[zaltec]

why bother with anything but C++ Bjarne is awesome<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Personally I use RTD and LORS, but they are more specialised than C++, Perl, Java, SQL etc...<BR>HTML isn't even a language...it has no logical syntax or uniform tag ecd, all it's for is webpages, and javascripting does a better job at most of that stuff. Although, I will admit...I rather like messing with HTML<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

[Joe]

i like working with PHP. I dont know too much about it ... but i do know it sure beats html <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> ...

[zaltec]

PHP is pretty neat to mess with, although of limited power. It has proper syntax unto itself, and better yet it has variables (e.g. ?_SERVER) but javascripts are more widely supported and easier to code. Your server actually has to support PHP, but RH Linux can support PHP, MySQL and APACHE right of the install discs<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

[Lakario]

I definitely agree, HTML is not a language, but it's certainly fun. I could type font color=barf and get a result. It has a closest color matching system, it's hilarious. As for PHP, it definitely kicks complete ass, so powerful, so sexy. :0~~~ *drool*<BR><BR>JavaScript is pretty good for graphical stuff, I am not too experienced with it but I can do some nice stuff, although I wouldn't recommend for full-blown web applications personally. A nice combination of PHP's server-side functions and JavaScript's client-side functions certainly make a nice ouput without-a-doubt.

[zaltec]

Thinking about it...CSS is pretty useless...I prefer to use PHP to sequentially format a series of pages, and CSS is much too complicated.<BR><BR>And lets not forget, BASIC, I learnt BASIC on a combination of the TRS-80, Atari 2600 and the Commodore 64. That was back when you could make your own video game or modify someone elses without getting sued<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

[Lakario]

CSS useless!?!? Lies!! CSS is incredible, have you ever seen what you can do with a stylesheet. CSS is excellent. You can control the entire output of your page from one source file while keeping your code clean and obscured. You cannot float things without CSS, you cannot trigger DHTML type events like hiding elements without CSS, you cannot Z-Index things without CSS. The list goes on.<BR><BR>I am making a new site where the entire output is controlled by a single stylesheet, all I must do to alter the entire appearance of the site is change a few stylesheet entries. The site is handled in CSS/PHP/MySQL and there is almost no HTML tags like tables because I let CSS handle the whole formatting and output for me. There is so much more power and professional appearance when one uses CSS. You really ought to look into it my uninformed friend.<BR><BR>For example, here is some CSS: <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.moddev.net/files.php?p=info&fid=2">http://www.moddev.net/files.php?p=info&fid=2</a>... Simply move your mouse over the preview image and enjoy.

[zaltec]

I think you would find php and java would yield just as good if not better results without having to be confined to the style you chose and no other. But then again...I'm not a webmaster...so...lol...don't listen to me, I just hate CSS long ass prose to do nothing.

[Lakario]

To each his own I suppose.

[Polykranopalous]

<br><br><< <i>I definitely agree, HTML is not a language</i> >><br><br><BR>it too is a language...without it how would you make a half decent site. most sites use tables to make da layout, and well last time i checked tables were html

[Joe]

<br><br><< <i><< <i>I definitely agree, HTML is not a language</i> >><BR><BR><BR><BR>it too is a language...without it how would you make a half decent site. most sites use tables to make da layout, and well last time i checked tables were html</i> >><br><br><BR><BR>you can make sites easily without html. most of the other scripts have built in funtions (iguess you can call it that) .. to do the same thing as html does. <BR><BR>but personally i still use tables and crap like that for my sites. like ... <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.mainframeguru.net">http://www.mainframeguru.net</a> ... yes folks .. that was another shameless plug of mine <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> lol

[Polykranopalous]

yeah i know you can make sites without html, but i can garuntee that all or close to all still use html for the tables

[zaltec]

Well Poly, being a language or not has nothing to do with it's ability to create webpages. Languages have set paramentres with which t work, and set guidelines and tags and a very uniform code syntax, HTML has a standard but it is free to manipulation unlike any other, as Lankario pointed out, font color="barf" would yeild a result. <BR><BR>Like the site now Pimpin, it's fleshing out<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

[Polykranopalous]

yes but still it is a language of some sort...hmmm I like the wallpapers ya got!<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

[NaSTy]

Hey sweet.<BR>Can anyone tell me where I can get some info on how to do this sh!t. Like a really cool web page that goes through it step by step. Coz unlike most I grew up in a small Town with a population of something like 3,000 and we did have computers at school. But we did have some flash typewriters.<BR>Any help much appreciated.

[Polykranopalous]

well first you should learn the basics which is HTML...<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.htmlgoodies.com">HtmlGoodies</a> is a good site to start off at, also WebMonkey is (not sure the url is) and if you search Google you can find hundreds<BR>after you learn that junk than you can start learning PHP, Java, etc

[zaltec]

Yeah, that's where I'd go...takes a little time to get into the whole coding thing, unless you have written code before. Familiarise yourself with HTML first, cos that will introduce you easily to webpages, rather than jumping headfirst into PHP MySQL and Javascripting<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

[NaSTy]

Yeah over time I've taught myself HTML mainly by right clicking and going to view source<BR>Is there a site that has a list of all the tags<BR>I would like to learn all that PHP, CSS and Java stuff

[Lakario]

HTML is still not a language in my opinion, it is a formatting routine not worthy of the title language.<BR><BR>On a side note, Zaltec, learn to spell my name. It's Lakario, not Lankario or Lokario... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"><BR><BR>As for the likes of thee NaSTy, I also grew up in a town of about 4000, although it was a rich town and every class had 3 or 4 computers in K-8 until high school (where I am now) which has a far less desktops. Regardless, my K-8 school didn't teach me anything and niether has high school (although it could in theory because we do have a couple useless noob classess...). The point being, I tought myself everything I know by buying a few books and disecting code whenever I could. I learned HTML buy "obtaining" Dreamweaver and making a page then disecting how it worked. I basically tittered around with everything else I know by testing what I could and couldn't do.<BR><BR>If you need a nice listing and tutorials of HTML, CSS, XHTML, etc. functions visit <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.w3schools.com">W3Schools</a>. For PHP functions go to <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.php.net/docs.php">PHP.net</a>. On a side note for all who don't know and care if you access http://www.php.net/function-to-look-up it will bounce you to the appropriate document (i.e. <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.php.net/echo">http://www.php.net/echo</a>). In reference to Poly's tips, Webmonkey can be found <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.webmonkey.com">here</a>.<BR><BR>Best of luck to thee and feel free to contact me if you need a hand. I go by Lakario on AIM, 101390922 on ICQ, and curv|Lakario (or just Lakario) on irc.gamesnet.net and irc.freenode.net.<BR><BR>Cheers.

[zaltec]

Hmmm...I added the extra "n", sorry dude...was not intentional.<BR>Dreamweaver can use everything amking a quite a tool to use, you just have to get those PHP plugins<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> <BR>We had computers the whole way through school...from 1st grade through my 8 years of engineering<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> It's a crying shame that they don't teach more people at an earlier age, although as Lakario says, learning by yourself is often very effective<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> I used C++ to create my current working enviroements of RTD and I specifically coded LORS for the gfx manipulation that I am working on. They both are at a ratio of 1/34 and are purely for graphics. RTD is the "OS" of the two and LORS is the manipulation files and "smarts" for the program. Took me close to 2 weeks to get the commands for a cyberglove right. I had to disect other software to work out wherethey belong and what part they are controlled from<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

[Lakario]

What on Earth are you referring to Zaltec?

[zaltec]

In which part of my comment? What are you asking me about referring too?

[Lakario]

Your "RTD" and "LORS".

[zaltec]

It's a programming language I use at work, RTD and LORS are proprietary languages owned by Scuderia, INC. I was just explaining how I wrote them. because it was in c++...blah blah

[Lakario]

Ohhhhh, now I get it!

[NaSTy]

Hey thanks heaps Lakario, You hit the nail on the head. Thats Precisely what Im after

[Lakario]

Anytime mate. Pleasure to be of service.

[hvac5777]

Well I use PPCL, (Powers Process Control Language) GE Funuc, and Allen Bradley SLC 500 series. I am learning VB6, VC++, and C++ at this time. I plan to learn Python, Perl, Java, etc. etc. etc. basically every language I can. However I am just starting so it'll be ahwile.<BR><BR>P.S. I took some BASIC and LOTUS 123 in grade school but that doesnt count!<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

[Lakario]

They actually taught you those things in grade school? You Lucky bastard.

[hvac5777]

Yeah Lakario, but it was a joke really. I attended a private school until 6th grade, then went to a public Math and Science Magnet school. Which was Kansas City's attempt to integrate the suburban with the urban children, as you may have guessed it didnt work too well. 15 years later I still have bruises.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0"> Anyway the didn't get very in depth, which is why I say it doesnt count.

[Lakario]

Hehehe <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">