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Utaks

06-15-04, 02:25 PM

This is "UtAkS' and I just got my new Rig put together a few days ago, below are its stock specs: ------------------------------- AMD Athlon XP 2400+ @ stock 2GHz (15x133) ChiLLEd by a Volcano 9 HSF EPoX 8RDA+ 'nforce2' chipset MoBo Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti4200 w/ 128MB DDR @ stock 250/450 (GPU/DDR Memory) 512MB PC2100 DDR Memory (256MBx2) 40GB Maxtor HDD @ 5400RPM ------------------------------- ::SoFtwArE:: Windows XP Professional w/ SP1 DirectX 9.0 3D Mark 2001 SE buiLd '330' ------------------------------- Ok, now thats my system at defaults, and I should have my 80GB 7200RPM HDD in next week. Of course I am an Overclockin' type guy, and here are my specs with my best score on 3D Mark 2k1 SE build 330 score: :: Tha Utakian Athlon XP 2400+ Gaming Rig :: -AMD Athlon XP 2400+ OC @ 2.27GHz (174FSBx13) -EPoX 8RDA+ Motherboard -512MB PC2100 DDR Memory (256MB x 2) -Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti4200 128MB GPU @ 276MHz, DDR @ 545MHz ::3D Mark 2001 SE 'build 330' Score:: 12881 3D Marks Now I have got this 2400+ up to 2.35GHz so far, but I haven't had time to run 3D Mark yet, and futuremark.com wouldn't let me publish my 12881 score (for an unknown reason) but did allow me to publish this one: <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6093043 ">AMD Athlon XP 2400+ OC @ 2.25GHz w/172FSB Ti4200 @ 270/540</a> Notice I put i am part of the PCStats 3DMark Team so I hope the rest of ya can help me break 14k!!! (thats my goal)

BAM!

06-15-04, 02:25 PM

nice score dude...!!!... of course we could help you boost some more. initially i had around 12000 too. here is my score <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6111493">click</a> luckily for 3dmark2001se there're lots of things you can tweak. so lets start: 1. make sure in your video driver properties you turn off all the verticle sync in D3D and OpenGL 2. under D3D set the system to best performance instead of best image quality. 3. in bios, try change your memory to the lowest timing you can. although since you have a pc2100 OCed to over 170FSB i doubt the memory can handle any low timing. also try upp the DDR voltage too just to help. 4. if it's possible, unlock your CPU to access even lower multiplyer which will allow you to increase the FSB even more to boost the overal performance. although, personally i find it a lot of work to do, so it's up to you. depends on how enthusiastic you are.! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> 5. get better airflow and try push your ti4200 to a higher frequency. i've seen those thing come very close to 4600. so give it a shot! 6. last and not least, disable all the background software like antivirus ....etc stuff of course while you run the 3dmark. 7. also i find i get better score right after i restart. keep us updated! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> and have fun!

Colin

06-15-04, 02:25 PM

Utaks welcome to PCStats and welcome to the team! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> You definitely have a "14k capable system" there but a few questions first... Which brand Ti4200 are you running? Are you running your memory in sync with the FSB and with the most aggressive memory timings? Did you read my <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1272">3DMark Tweak Guide</a>? Yes I was using a P4 for that article, but the tweaks still apply. I usually get the best overall performance with teh Detonator 40.52's...

Utaks

06-15-04, 02:25 PM

Ok, I ran 3D Mark with a bit different setting and got 12814, and It let me publish it: <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6118649 ">12814 3D MARKS</a> First off, my 2400+ is unlocked by default on this EPoX 8RDA+ Mobo, and that test of 12814 had a multiplier of 12.5, and my highest score of 12881 I had a multiplier of 13. Colin, i know you only got 250MHz out of your 2400+, and I have got 350MHz out of it before and I'm getting ready to run the test overclocked to about that, but what do you think I should set the multiplier at and the FSB at to get 350MHz out of it for best performance speaking i have PC2100 memory? I'm off to run the 3D Mark after following the guide and i"m going to see Ifi can break 350Mhz OC on this baby....

GNXtreme

06-15-04, 02:25 PM

Nice rig mang!  Good luck on those overclocks!

Colin

06-15-04, 02:25 PM

Utaks you can use any multiplier up to 25x I believe... Try using a 15x multiplier or something like that, it's difficult to say though which is your optimal setting. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

Utaks

06-15-04, 02:25 PM

Heres a pic of my AMD Athlon XP 2400+ I'm using for this overclocking escapade: <img src="http://www.utaks.net/amd/amd_athlon_xp_2400+_pic_01.jpg"> AIUHB - isn't this the one they so overclocks so well? Also, someone said that you can tell what week this athlon was made or something like that, can anyone explain how to decipher this?

DeanLowe

06-15-04, 02:25 PM

that's from the 48th week of 2002, if I'm not mistaken.

Colin

06-15-04, 02:25 PM

Utaks DeanLowe pretty much told you all you want to know... First the stepping is hte AIUHB and the year and week follows, in your case it's 0248. Your chip was made in week 48 of 2002. It should b ea fairly good overclocker, I'd expect at least 2.4 GHz out of you! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

Utaks

06-15-04, 02:25 PM

I'll post a review of my Athlon 2400+ AUIHB stepping CPU on my forum at Utaks.net, and please join my forum, I will have the rest of my site up (your redirected to the forum for now) soon and if all goes well I will be able to write reviews on new hardware, and have hardware news. My first reviews will be on this 2400+ Athlon CPU, and the EPoX 8RDA+ Nforce2 Motherboard. Please go to the Overclockers Area to read how to become part of the UtAkS.NET 3D Mark TeAM!

Colin

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

Utaks thanks but I think I'll stick to PCStats for now... WHen you do finish your review on the processor send us a news e-mail to news@pcstats.com so we can post that.

Utaks

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

I will indead Colin, but It's not quite done yet, and I just broke the 13k Barrier! Check out my Signature for the specs, and go <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6148736">HERE</a> to check it out!!

Utaks

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

I tinkered all night and broke the 13.5K barrier, go check it out! :: <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6164218">13,515 3D MARKS</a> ::

CompSnake

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

and i was proud of my 4900 points

trm96

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

Thats really nice but when I get my computer built in the comming months I am going to smoke you. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> jk

Utaks

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

Ha ha, it's ok guys, thats just my friend Trm96. I got him to come here to PCStats, since he's planning on putting a rig together in the coming months. BUT since he wants to joke with me, how about I give everyone something to laugh about, shall I? <a href="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6162995">TRM96's 3D MARK 2001 SE SCORE</a> Now THAT is something to laugh about!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

trm96

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

Thats ok you laugh at my computers score, but this pos computer was store-bought. I intend to build my next computer to be an ultimate gaming machine. Any ideas of mobos, CPUs, and video cards would be a great help.

Utaks

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

Colin, We are basically only into AMD systems right now, although I wouldn't mind having a 3GHz p4 but its just not in the budget. either way I have tried and tried to tell Trm96 that the EPoX 8RDA+ Nforce2 Board is 'basically' the best OCing Athlon Board out, wouldn't you agree? I have been telling him since he plans to get a Water Cooling System for OCing purposes, that he should either get a 2100+ AIUHB T-bred or a 2400+ AIUHB Tbred since they both are great overclockers, and I told him he should get a Water GPU cooler also (especially if he DOES get that Radeon 9700 Pro!).

GNXtreme

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

Utaks, the choices you list are top of the line for overclocking.  I would recommend the 2100 because of the price difference.  If you can afford the 2400 then by all means go for it.  I just ordered the 2100 for myself and will probably be getting the epox board in a couple of months...just because I want to get the best out of my overclock.  My Dragon Ultra has served me well and is very stable but from what I hear is not the best for overclocking.  And the thing that pisses me off is that the epox board is cheaper.

trm96

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

What video card do you recommend me putting in my new computer i am building?

GNXtreme

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

It just depends on how much you wanna spend....

trm96

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

Well I don't really care. Price is no object... As I said above I want to build the ultimate gaming machine. I am prepaired to spend 500, 600 if I have to.

GNXtreme

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

<A class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.ocsystem.com/atirad8512dd1.html" target=blank>This</A> should be good enough to hold you over for a while.

trm96

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

Cool thanks!

GNXtreme

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

No problem!

Canadian-Guy

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

<< and i was proud of my 4900 points >> damn...and i was proud of my almost 4100 points

JLAudioFan

06-15-04, 02:26 PM

<< Ha ha, it's ok guys, thats just my friend Trm96. I got him to come here to PCStats, since he's planning on putting a rig together in the coming months. BUT since he wants to joke with me, how about I give everyone something to laugh about, shall I? <a href="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6162995">TRM96's 3D MARK 2001 SE SCORE</a> Now THAT is something to laugh about!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> >> hehe, i only beat his score by 11,000 points...