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zaltec
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
<img src="http://web.tampabay.rr.com/zaltec/oc%20score.x"><BR>2100+ at 2340mhz (180FSB x 13) and radeon 8500 at 272.5/272.5, memory 2-2-2-5. <BR><BR>Oh yeah, no OS tweaks yet. Other than boot quick ones...

zaltec
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
I have a few questions seeing as I can play with the 8RDA+ now, I did this with memory running in sync. Right now I have the processor at 2700+ 166FSB x 13, and the memory at 120% or 200FSB. Is that giving me better performance? I haven't ghad a chance to run sandra or anything yet, but I plan on doing that Thursday and re benchmarking 3dMark01 to post my scores for PCStats 3dMark team<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

BAM!
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
running it in sync should yield a better performance. running it asynchronized will only give you better score in memory benchmarking and not in realworld application including 3dmark, since memory will be running a different paste than the rest of the buses, you might even get performance decrease. in another words... always run it "in sync".

zaltec
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
I'll change that back then<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Colin
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
VERY NICE SIR!<BR><BR>I'm sorry about my late reply but very nice!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> 10k with a Radeon 8500 is awesome.<BR><BR>zaltec, Howard BAM! is correct, running in sync produces better overall scores because the latency is lower.

zaltec
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
Sorry about MY late reply<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"><BR>I am getting round to doing some more tweaking...been a little busy lately. I am going to order 256 megs of Corsair XMS3500LL today, and then the 1gb of TwinX3200LL later on this month<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> See if that 256 meg module XMS3500LL gives me a higher score.

BAM!
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
man.... isn't it nice when you can just order whatever you want !! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"><BR><BR><img src="http://www.digitalinvent.com/comp/score.jpg"><BR><BR>here's my score <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

zaltec
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
3728 3dMarks for upgrading to a Ti4600? Hmmm, I suddenly wonder. Have you overclocked that at all Howard BAM!? Seems too low to me, but your 1700+ will improve that.

BAM!
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
what you talking about Zal!!!.. i've always had this ti4600. my previous g4MX440 had a core of around 6000. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">

zaltec
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
LOL, no! I was considering at one point getting a Ti4600, but look at what it would have got me<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"><BR>

zaltec
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6306081">10630</a><BR>My PC doesn't want to load windows at 180FSB anymore, maybe new RAM would help that<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> Anyway, there is a compare url<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Colin
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
Very nice zaltec! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Glad to have you on teh team!<BR><BR>As for the memory, what are you using again? Perhaps you need a bit more voltage! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

zaltec
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
Well, it's GeIL and it's at 2.9Vdimm<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> I think the WD hdd doesn't like the 180FSB, it loads into windows and goes black<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif" border="0"> Just a black screen and all hdd activity stops.<BR>I'll be getting the 1700+ NF7-S ver2.0 and 256mbs of PC3500LLPT COrsair XMS. Hopefully that will give me higher clocks!

Colin
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
Oh that's a shame... I find that GeIL does like high voltages as well.<BR><BR>I hope you have the same luck as I do with Corsair... I have not tested anything that runs faster then my trusty XMS3500 CAS2! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

zaltec
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
Man<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> I have no idea what I am doing wrong but I can't get my XMS to run at 200FSB properly<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif" border="0"><BR>I only just found the AGP bus lock aswell, that helped a bit, but at 210FSB I ended up corrupting Windows somehow, which blows. I had to run system restore to fix it.<BR>Any ideas what I am doing wrong?<BR>I am using an 8 multiplier, and 200FSB, agp is locked at 66Mhz. Timings are 3-4-4-8. I think that maybe my HDD doesn't like high FSB<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"><BR>Oh yeah, it's one dimm of ver1.1 256mbs Corsair XMS3500LLPT.

Colin
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
zaltec you're using the 8RDA+ right? Hmm, some nForce2 based boards are having problems with the low latency Corsair memory. I have spoken to my Corsair contact about that already and he said it's a bios issue and that Epox is working on it.<BR><BR>Did you try the <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://bbs.pcstats.com/pcstats/messageview.cfm?catid=53&threadid=19058">beta BIOS</a> roy pointed out? Perhaps that would help.

zaltec
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
No I haven't...<BR>I'll try that now, first to find info on what to do<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

DeanLowe
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
I would never use anything slower than 2.5-3-3-6.

Colin
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
zaltec just put the .bin file onto your floppy and when your system starts up, press ALT+F2 and follow the instructions.

BAM!
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
i love those built-in bios flash features... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> makes it so easy for you to flash bios without breaking a sweat <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

zaltec
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
Flashed BIOS, now I have no internet connection and the PC reboots spontaneously in 3d Apps. But I did get like 10786 3dMarks, which I will upload to Futuremark once I flash the BIOS with a newer version that promises to fix NV/MAC Lan address or something tht was screwed up in the previous update<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"><BR><BR>I went back to the GeIL Colin, that Corsair LL just didn't wanna play with my system<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> That's ok tho, it'll rock in my NF7-S<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"><BR>

Colin
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
Hmm... Well the BIOS is still beta perhaps I guess it still has a few bugs in it. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"><BR><BR>Nice, go for 11k!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> That would be great with a Radeon 8500!<BR><BR>My Corsair contact says that the Abit mobo's don't seem to have the problem with Corsair memory... It seems the LL stuff cannot initalize at high speeds with the 3-4-4-8 timings. At least that's the official explanation they're telling me.

zaltec
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6330155">10783</a><BR>My onboard NIC has quit working, no matter what version BIOS I flash to<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> I think I will RMA the board once the Abit arrives. I had to buy a NIC to get online...<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> How outrageous is that? I overclocked the card some more, a teeny bit. I have to learn some windows tweakes to get an extra 300 points for 11k Colin<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> <BR>BTW, where can I find a Prometia? All I can find are Vapochill<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif" border="0">

Colin
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
zaltec <b>very</b> nice scores man! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> <BR><BR>Geez, that's a shame about your 8RDA+, that's really weird man... I wonder why so many of them are going bad. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> <BR><BR>Did you read my 3DMark <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1252">tweak</a> guide? I see you're using WindowsXP, there are a lot of background services running... Also, for some reason AMD systems benchmark fastest with Win2k+SP2. If you keep everything equal between the OS's you're looking at an extra 200-300 points! <BR><BR>As for Prometeia, here are a bunch of resellers from their <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.chip-con.com/index.php?pageid=29#America">website</a>. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> hold off though, Chip-Con is about to release their new Prometeia, it's suppose to be using a 300W compressor and use R404 instead of R134... I hear the idle temperatures will be about the same but with the new Prometeia it's possible to run at -35 to -40 degrees Celsius under load! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">

zaltec
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
Win2k and SP2??? Hmm, Maybe I'll get that for the Abit board and the 9800PRO.<BR>I was asking cos I went to ChipCon but I went to a reseller that no longer stocks them (FrozenCPU) so i was all bummed out! I am gonna wait, I just wanna know what to look for, what kinda weight I'm looking at etc...<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"><BR>I looked at your tweak guide last time, but not this time round. I also like the new one you linked to!

Colin
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
The tweak guide that I posted should be able to push to past 11k I think... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"><BR><BR>Man, that new Prometeia looks nice, I want!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">