The 1700+ JIUHB race

[DeanLowe]

Damn it!<BR><BR>I can't get passed the 1st CPU test in 3D Mark03 with 10X222 1.82V~1.84V.<BR><BR>I think it might be my board or RAM max'ing out.

[DeanLowe]

<br><br><< <i>LMAO....that's why I have a second HD. I would never keep porn on my WD 120GB...I need to enjoy the best of both worlds! </i> >><br><br><BR><BR>Never say never. I have several drives and for some strange reason<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> there never seems to be enough space for all the porn.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif" border="0"> It always spills over on to new drives I install.<BR><BR>Oh well, drive space is cheap, almost as cheap a CD-Rs.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

[Avid6eek]

I've never had porn spill over into other drives....more than 40GB would be quite the collection. Unfortunately I lost my whole colllection a few months back (20GB+) so I've been spending lots of time on Kaaza.

[DeanLowe]

What's you highest stable(at least finish 3D Mark 2001 & 03 and PC Mark 2002) speed?<BR><BR>I got my DUT3C up to 2310MHz so far.<BR><BR>10.5X 220MHz FSB with 1.8Vcore<BR><BR>Has anyone here gotten near 2.4GHz yet?

[TranceJunkieXL]

Won't know until the HSF comes in.....<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> You can bet I'll be trying to best that when it does hit the front porch!<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

[BAM!]

the highest i can go is 2.3ghz with this DLT3C 0310. what's the date on yours dean?... and batch code?.. seems like the only monster in the JIUHB family is the DLT3C 0309UPMW, tho i haven't been able to find it anywhere online. the only place that i know sells it is in taiwan. and i've just been told by my folks not to go home this summer due to the disease <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif" border="0"> besides this monster chip i think all the others are about around the same ball park

[DeanLowe]

0306<BR>I think it was MPMW, didn't really pay much attention to that. <BR><BR><b>update:</b> I'm at 2331MHz now...10.5X222FSB

[Colin]

Damn, I wish I had a chip so I can join the race! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"><BR><BR>Come on, let's see how high you guys can go!

[BAM!]

DAMN DEAN!!!... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0"> fix your Hard drive!!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> that's some embarrasing score !!!<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

[dantheman]

I only got mine up to 2.2GHz(176x12.5)<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">. I bought mine back in Febuary so that might have something to do with it. My Vcore is at 1.85v currently.<BR><BR><BR><BR>--------------<BR>1700+ (2.2GHz)<BR>Epox 8RDA<BR>Coolmaster X-Dream<BR>512mb 2100 ram<BR>Geforce 3 Ti200<BR>20GB WD 7200<BR>

[computerfreke911]

damn dean! howard is right. how do u get a 461 on ur hd score? thats crazy

[CaffeinatedSoap]

unlike you all i dont have much fancy hardware but i got mine up to 2075mhz @ 166x12.5

[DeanLowe]

It's almost full...should I delete my porn to get a better HDD score???<BR><BR>Hmmmm...<BR><BR><BR><h4>I think not!</h4>

[DeanLowe]

<BR><< <i>I only got mine up to 2.2GHz(176x12.5)<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">. I bought mine back in Febuary so that might have something to do with it. My Vcore is at 1.85v currently.<BR><BR>-------------<BR>1700+ (2.2GHz)<BR>Epox 8RDA<BR>Coolmaster X-Dream<BR>512mb 2100 ram<BR>Geforce 3 Ti200<BR>20GB WD 7200</i> >><BR><BR><BR><BR>Dan, Your RAM is limiting you. Although 176MHz from PC2100 in pretty damn good.

[roy]

Could you guys tell me the highest speed you could get out of the 1700 on stock multiplier and stock voltage? This sounds silly but I want to know because I'm getting this SFF Shuttle system with a BIOS that will only let you change the FSB and not the voltage and multiplier. Thanks.

[DeanLowe]

I tried one of the SN41G2. It was nice and small but I wasn't too impressed with it's performance.<BR><BR>PC Mark 2002(highest FSB I could get) - <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm=1114242">CPU: 5742 Mem: 3933</a><BR>PC Mark 2002 w/Radeon 8500 128MB - <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm=1114517">CPU: 5557 Mem: 4438</a>

[CaffeinatedSoap]

i can get my multipliers up 2 x12.5 i wuz woundering how i could get 13 outa it like the stock 2600's

[GNXtreme]

<P>My wife has put a cap on my computer buying...I won't be able to buy a better hsf for my 1700 for a while...I may have to join the race later....</P>

[TranceJunkieXL]

Bummer mang! Sorry to hear that.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

[FTO]

I have actually hit 2.52Ghz, but I jacked my ram backwards since its crappy(technically generic), FSB @210, multiplier 12....voltage 1.9, temps were hovering at like 42 idle, which I do not like...I should get better ram shouldnt I? hehe...I could run sandra with these...however as I said, the ram was running at around DDR333 always...so yeah...

[DeanLowe]

how stable was 2.5GHz?

[FTO]

well i ran both the cpu tests in sandra 3 times, before shutting my comp down and going to sleep...was pretty stable...only additions on mother board is a heatsink on southbridge, and a 40 mm fan on the northbridge stock heatsink...

[DeanLowe]

Stable enough for everyday use? Gaming? 3D Mark2001/03?<BR><BR>2.5GHz sounds amazing. 42c doesn't seem that bad.

[FTO]

I tried again earlier today in the morning since my internet blew up for an hour...I ran the sandra tests again, and for the rest of the time, I ran prime95 for about 2 hours, internet came back up...so I changed everything back to my normal o/c...<BR><BR>p.s, before turning everything back my temps were like 47 after prime

[BAM!]

you mean it passed prime95's torture test?? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">

[GNXtreme]

Not too bad!

[TranceJunkieXL]

Well, I just got my oc system up with the MCX462+ and started her off with 166FSB and 12.5x multiplier. No problems whatsoever matching the speed of my Barton 2800+(2.075). Will have to wait until later this week to attempt to push it even further as I am having problems configuring the home network.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"><BR>Does anyone know how to access the temperature utility on the NF7-S? The SOYO installed automatically, so I'm not sure with the Abit.

[BAM!]

who cares about the temperature@!!! over clock that sucker!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> ... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">... it should be on one of the utility disks that came with the mobo. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

[TranceJunkieXL]

Yeah, you are right BAM! Too bad I picked Colin's brain for awhile before I figured that one out. Whew, I must have been tired last night. LOL. Drivers are now installed and I can access the router, but still no internet. LOL. Going to take a break and then tackle it again Abit later (pardon the pun guys, I just had to-LOL).<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

[GNXtreme]

try to "repair" the connection....

[DoGMaN]

Can I play too?<BR><BR><img src="http://www.thecrucible.ca/images/1700+_2425.jpg"><BR><BR>1.75v <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

[GNXtreme]

what kind of cooling are you using DoGMaN?

[DoGMaN]

<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://thecrucible.ca/reviews/cooltech">This <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"></a>

[GNXtreme]

Ok....that was a freakin tease...I want one now...and NO North American dealers....that really sux!

[DoGMaN]

frogtuning.com carries them now. They are based in Quebec. I am going to be selling this unit soon, if you are interested let me know. I got lots of extras with it <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

[GNXtreme]

I am in the US and am very interested in a good watercooling setup...I have been looking at the swiftech H20-22500-AV...If I can get something a little cheaper that will work as good/better then, Huah!

[DeanLowe]

Which week was your JIUHB made, DogMan?

[BAM!]

yeah what are the specs of your 1700+

[DoGMaN]

JIUHB 0310 XPMW I have 2 of them, and they both seem to OC about the same. <BR><BR>I'll ship anywhere, like I said, if you are interested let me know.

[BAM!]

you mean you're selling the cpu or the water cooling. how much do you want for the cpu

[GNXtreme]

How much do you want for the water cooler?<BR>

[TranceJunkieXL]

LOL. That is the exact same chip I managed to get from excaliberpc.com. The problem is, mine clocked 2.400GHz (200FSB by 12x) with only air cooling. I would have expected water to have allowed you a much higher OC. (You do have a lower voltage than I do at 1.75v - nice)<BR>For some reason I can't get my GEIL PC3500 to go past 438 without stability problems, and that's on 2.9v.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0"> Colin thinks my NB is overheating.<BR>What is the rest of your set-up DoGMaN. Oh yeah, and welcome to pcstats.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> We need more experienced overclockers like yourself.

[DoGMaN]

My system is pretty basic at the moment. Abit NF7-S v2.0 with a Vantec Iceberq on the NB and a little square pin heatsink on the SB. I think the chip still has a ways to go, I haven't really pushed it. I figure 2.6-2.7 is possible with some good cooling and 1.9-2.0v. I just have too much on the go right now to play too much. Thanks for the welcome. Seems like a damn cool place you guys have here.

[BAM!]

so are you selling the cpu or what?? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

[GNXtreme]

<P>have patience BAM!....he will tell you when he is ready....<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>So, what do you want for the watercooler?<BR><BR><BR>LOL!<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif" border="0"></P>

[TranceJunkieXL]

<br><br><< <i>with a Vantec Iceberq on the NB and a little square pin heatsink on the SB</i> >><br><br> Did you purchase the copper Iceberq? The reason I ask is because my NF7-S came with the exact same aluminum cooler on the NB and nothing on the SB.<BR>DoGMaN, don't let these guys harass you about the CPU and water cooler.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"><BR>BTW, How much do you want for <i>both</i>? J/K guys! LOL.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

[DeanLowe]

He's probably talking about the copper version of the IceBerq.

[BAM!]

AHHHH!!!>.... just came back !!!.... what a fun night!!!>.. i am pretty hammered right now!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0"> any ways...... i don't think i can type striahghathhtgt right now.. so peace out!!

[DoGMaN]

LOL yah sorry it is the copper version. I'd rather not post prices in this forum, but if anyone is interested drop me a PM or an email. I'm in need of some cash <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0"> I have tons of motherboards, chips, maybe even some nice DDR.

[TranceJunkieXL]

DoGMaN, you need to enable PM in your profile. Currently it doesn't show on your post.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

[BAM!]

well.. dogman i tried to e-mail you but came back as delivery failur. anyways.. i just wanted to tell you that i already order a 1700+ XPMW 0310 today, i've been trying to reach you but no response. tho since you said you're in some serious need of cash, if you can offer me a good enough price i'll cancel my order today. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> email me <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="mailto:howzz1854@hotmail.com">here</a>

[DoGMaN]

Hrmmmmmmz don't know why my email wouldn't work. I payed I think $92 for it, plus GST and shipping. If you are anywhere in that neighbourhood, then I suggest you keep your order. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

[BAM!]

thanks tho.... $92 is almost twice as much as i was expecting. i'll stick with my order.

[DoGMaN]

That is $92 Canadian. About $60 USD.

[BAM!]

oh..... didn't catch on that one ! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> i'll give you $50 USD for it if you can respond now and i'll cancel my order. how long does it tak for you to ship to Boston, Massachusetts USA?

[FTO]

hey guys, just have a slight question, are the 1700s and 1800s not being produced anymore, cause i remember reading that somewhere...<BR><BR>...if so, do you think I should stock up on another one just in case?? =)

[DeanLowe]

<br><br><< <i>hey guys, just have a slight question, are the 1700s and 1800s not being produced anymore, cause i remember reading that somewhere...<BR><BR>...if so, do you think I should stock up on another one just in case?? =)</i> >><br><br><BR><BR>If it hasn't been phased out already, it should be very soon. Although the 1700+/1800+ seem to be taking the Duron's place at the moment. The low end competition for the P4 Celerons(the "Value" segment).

[VincentMalloy]

Well damn, I have a Ti4600 and a 300 antec psu <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> I don't have any money left for a 9700 pro or a vantec 470psu.<BR><BR>I just bought JIUHB xp1700 <BR>Vantec AeroFlow<BR>2x 512's Corsair PC2700LL <BR>Expox 8rda+<BR><BR>Any guesses on what this rig will allow with a 300psu?<BR><BR>I'm running 3 maxtor hd's, 3 case fans, floppy, 1 cd-drive...<BR><BR>-Will

[DeanLowe]

You should be fine with an Antec 300W. I'm using a 350W and have lots more(7 in total - 4 in racks with 2 fans) drives than you.

[VincentMalloy]

Any rumors of a sweepstakes from pcstats??? If I'm really lucky.. maybe I could win something and have a complete sys. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"><BR><BR>-Will

[Avid6eek]

<br><br><< <i>It's almost full...should I delete my porn to get a better HDD score???<BR>Hmmmm...<BR><h4>I think not!</h4></i> >><br><br> LMAO....that's why I have a second HD. I would never keep porn on my WD 120GB...I need to enjoy the best of both worlds!

[VincentMalloy]

I just saw Matrix Reloaded for the third time on Sunday night!!<BR><BR>-Willhelm.

[DeanLowe]

And that's relevant, how?

[VincentMalloy]

It's a wonderful movie, full of action, sex and even some comedy!<BR><BR>-Will

[DeanLowe]

Haven't seen it yet, wouldn't know.

[phill9700]

how high is your fsb on your epox board? mine wouldnt even go above 206 stably.. it was so annoying, wouldnt even do 2.3ghz without using 1.8v and i wasnt happy with that..

[phill9700]

how did you manage to get the fsb so high on that abit board? mine wouldnt even manage 200 properly without going nuts... any ideas?

[BAM!]

have you tried lowering the multiplyer while using higher FSB>?<BR>

[phill9700]

yeah and the simple thing that does is crash out the system, as does anything when i try and go above 2.3ghz.. althought ironically the darn thing worked at 208 x 11 (if not 208 x 11.5) but now its not working anyway, the board is busted!! im considering to changing my memory.. im fed up with it not overclocking much..<BR>everyone else is getting such higher fsb's etc with the same sort of setup, but me.. im so jealous!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0"> <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">

[BAM!]

i think for you.. you need to first determin what's the highest FSB for you. if your max speed at this moment is 2.3ghz. try lower the multiplyer by a lot and upp the fsb ie. 10x210. or 9.5x215 lowering the speed and upping the fsb is the only way to determin your max fsb for your mobo. and make sure you upp the VDD voltage on your N7f-s too. <BR><BR>my A7N8X rev1.04 only can go up to 199fsb (due to insufficient VDD voltage) so don't feel too alone out there. only a few people here have their rig set at 200 or higher and it's because they either have newer rev of nforce2 board or the VDD mod.

[phill9700]

well i managed to get the memory up to about 208 fsb, but when it worked, it only managed to get to 206 reably.. which was rather confusing because it wont even boot up at 208fsb... its all confusing to me..<BR>well because my nf7-s and my 8rda+ boards are pants and arent working at all, they are going back (well the epox board has already gone back as i took it back when i went to get the nf7-s and the nf7-s not reading temperatures at all) but overclocking on the abit board was a nightmare.. at standard voltage and with one of the other cpus i have here (i think it was JIUCB i put in) that went straight to 2ghz with no hassle at all.. then i noticed the temp on the hardware monitor i use and it was at 50C.. i touched the heatsink and there was no way it was at 50C.. the highest i ever had the epox board with one of theses cpus in it was 42 at idle and that was with a 1.75v thing for the cpu.. its most confusing and annoying.. im getting rather annoyed at it all to be honest<BR>i have tried booting up with a 180 fsb @ 11 multiplier worked fine then tried a 190fsb @ 12 and the darn thing bombed out on me.. i wasnt impressed as it would just about work at 11.5 x 200... i tried upping the voltage all the way (1.850v for the cpu and 2.9v for the memory) and still no joy.. it just dont want to know..<BR>my epox board was rev 1.1 and my nf7-s was rev 2.. the two boards that everyone was raving on about with how good the fsb's are, how high they managed to put up the mhz... and theres me, struggling to do anything more than 2.2...<BR>im just simply frustrated.... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif" border="0"> <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0"> <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

[BAM!]

i dont think there's any need for being upset or frustration. 2.2 is a good mark especially for a none JIUHB. you should be thanking it for the score that it gives you consider it's not exactly a JIUHB. even so, most of the JIUHBs overclock range from 2.2 - 2.3. only a few goes to 2.4. your score should consider to be very good in a nother words. overclock often times has a lot to do with luck also. my score might look kinda nice now but it took me 3 tries to get here. my previous JIUHB could only do 2.3 and this JIUHB does 2.4. even with the exact same stepping, batch code date and everything your score can still vary. it all depends on how pure the wafer was when they produced it. <BR><BR>i think you should be greatful for what you got and have fun!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

[phill9700]

im happy that i managed to get over the 2.2ghz mark, i just wish for something higher.. im told more fsb is better by colin, but i do often wonder how if the amd systems dont or cant use anything past (say for arguement) 180 or what have you.. know what i mean? <BR>i was hoping for a stable 2.3ghz, or a 1ghz overclock, that would have been nice.. it might have helped me towards my goal of 18000 3dmarks!!! (2001se anyway.. i dont get that far away from 6000 in 3dmark 03, surprised on that one...)<BR>i do wonder what the JIUCB stepping will do, at the moment the best i have had it was at 2ghz with stock voltage, but i think that most of these DLT3C cpus are doing that anyways.. im happy with it.. i just hope the next board or two i have, will be better than the last two.. im feeling very unenthusiastic about having two more boards... which do you prefer. abit nf7-s rev 2 or the epox board 8rda+.. rev 1.1 mine was.. do they have a newer one?<BR>anyway, thanks for the vote of confidence.. cheered me up a little <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">