JIUHB 309 or 312.. which is better?

[VincentMalloy]

Hey guys. Just wondering what I should buy. Looks like I can get a 309 for $62. or a 312 for $60. I guess I'll just have to buy another amd setup.. can't pass up this type of oc amounts. I'll buy Epox 8RDA+ twin 256 Corsair 2700LL, and which JIUHB? <BR><BR>What type of cooling would be best. I'm on severe budget here. Air cooling.. any ideas?<BR><BR><BR>-Will<BR>

[GNXtreme]

Well generally speaking the later date(312) processors overclock better, however I am not real sure with these.&nbsp; For the cooling solution, being on a severe budget will not do well for overclocking.&nbsp; But I would suggest the SLK-800 and smartfan II.

[VincentMalloy]

Below is what I have purchase.. I went for the Vantec AeroFlow, hope that will be good.<BR><BR>----just purchased from GameVE and Newegg----<BR>XP1700 JIUHB 312 (hopefully overclock it faster then my current palomino xp2100)<BR>Vantec AeroFlow fan<BR>Epox 8rda+<BR>2x 512mb's Corsair XMS 2700LL<BR><BR>----What I currently have----<BR>xp2100 (palomino, crappy stepping)<BR>KR7A-RAID<BR>2x 512mb's Corsair<BR>CoolerMaster.. noisy as hell fan.. don't know what kind.<BR><BR>GeForce 4 Ti 4600<BR>3x 40gb Maxtor Drives<BR>Sony 48x CD-RW<BR>WinXP Pro<BR>Antec SOHO fileserver case (black)<BR>Antec 300watt psu.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Will I need to upgrade 300watt psu to overclock at all?<BR><BR>-Will<BR>

[DeanLowe]

It'll run way faster than your 2100+ Palomino. The AeroFlow is fine, a bit loud for me.

[VincentMalloy]

And the 300watt psu? Will I need to upgrade that.. or does it only affect performance when I have to up vcore?<BR><BR><BR>thanks for the answers!<BR>-Will

[DeanLowe]

You should be fine with an Antec 300W. I'm using a 350W and have lots more(7 in total - 4 in racks with 2 fans) drives than you. If it's not good enough, it'll affect stability not performance.

[VincentMalloy]

Okay, cool.<BR><BR>Thanks for the reassurance. If I see it become weirdly unstable.. I'll try upgrading psu. thanks<BR><BR>-Will.

[GNXtreme]

I would have to say those are some good selections...and yeah your JIUHB 1700 should blow the palo2100 outtta the water.&nbsp; From the reviews that I have read the aeroflow should do the job nicely...I have had excellent luck with my abit NF7-S but I do know that the epox is an awesome overclocker.

[VincentMalloy]

Hehe, <BR><BR>Yeah, I'm getting into overclocking pretty heavily now.. I really like learning about hardware and pushing it to see just how much it can take (... last statment = generic) lol.. but you know what I mean. It's addicting.. Hopefully I can make a stable computer at around xp1700 @ 2.2ghz. would that be to much to ask for a stable gaming comp/3d modeling and animation compie?<BR><BR>=Willbur.

[BAM!]

most of the JIUHB i know should all reach at least 2.2 - 2.3 ghz.

[VincentMalloy]

does the 2.2ghz make the chip faster then a xp2700 or 2800? I know the clock is higher.. but do the newer have larger cache? If so.. how much of a performance increase is there when the cache is doubled in the newer ones? <BR><BR>-Will. <BR><BR>EDIT - I bought a 312.

[MrWiggly]

Hmm I should of checked to see what mine was. Maybe someday.

[VincentMalloy]

Heh.. yeah.

[PCgeek]

I know the 2500,2800 and 3000 are barton cores and thus have twice the cache but the 2400,2600 and 2700 are all t-breds and have the same amount of cache as the 1700 (somebody plz correct me if i am wrong)

[VincentMalloy]

Yep, i've checked into it since. a larger cache would be nice.<BR><BR>will