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omga14
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
anyone know what the boundaries may be for cpu's come 3 years from now? just a question that i would like opinions on cause that is the next time i build a complete ground up computer. especially ginsu, rithem, and gnx's opinions. you guys have helped me not fry my system plenty of times. right now i am going to finish the setup i have now with 512mb more of pc3200 ram, north pole cooling for the northbridge, a 9700pro(that is dx9 right?), and maybe a 450watt power supply. i have a 300watt psu right now and don't seem to have any problems. any suggestions if i should go higher? thanks. also where do you think ram will be at?

roy
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
Hopefully we'll be seeing the premiere of magnetic memory. It's faster and there is no heat involved.

Viper409
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
Ain't that the same stuff where if you turn off your comp, or have a power loss, than you don't lose any unsaved info?

roy
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
I don't remember. I read the article a while ago.

TranceJunkieXL
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
Sorry omga, but 3 years is a very long time in the computer industry. LOL. Just keep your eye on PCStats front page about the time you want to rebuild from scratch and you shouldn't have any problems. You do get the newsletter, right?<BR>450Watts should be plenty for your system, providing you got a quality PSU. 9700Pro is a good choice as well (yes, DX9 compliant).

mmcduff
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
its called a rackmount server, w/ lots of CPU's. The first computer to reach a teraflop (96') had something like 9000 processors in it. They can all run threads at the same time.<BR><BR>oh, the speed of CPU will never be too high. If you every take a computer science course you will find that there are many problems which will take thousands of years to solve as it is (w/ currents CPU's)

roy
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
<br><br><< <i>Computers won't be fast enough until they are only as fast as the user is and are able to run 2 games, a bunch of music, the internet, & etc..., lag free. Also, my system is almost 5 years old and if I had a mobo that allowed OCing, it'd be perfectly fine. </i> >><br><br><BR>What's the point of running all those things simultaneously? Even if you had multiple outputs, you can't game and surf the net at the same time. Not to mention TWO games and surf the net. Also, wouldn't the music distract your gaming? All that power is pretty unnecessary. I think 3GHZ is too fast. I mean the only thing that could pump 100% out of that CPU constantly is Folding@Home.

mmcduff
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
lmao, i get the newsletter but i have read all the articles by the time the newsletter comes around, i visit virutally every day <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"><BR><BR>in the next 3 years, CPU's will probably reach 10GHz (in last 3 years we have come up a little over 2 GHz, but this stuff is exponential) and wait for athlon 64 before your next system

omga14
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
where do you think that the speed of the processor is just unneccesarily high? i think that the industry needs to start looking for a different tech for the build of processors. for one a processor that can handle up to 10 threads simultaneously with no lag. unless there is something out there that already does this. i know "what would we overclockers do then?". what else, overclock the amount of threads that the processor can handle without lag. can you see 1000 threads with no problem. if it could do that then 1 or 2 threads would never be a problem no matter what the software or program.

omga14
06-15-04, 02:26 PM

TranceJunkieXL
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
Cat got your tongue omga14? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> LOL!

mmcduff
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
nah, the platypus has it (his avatar)

Assimilator87
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
Computers won't be fast enough until they are only as fast as the user is and are able to run 2 games, a bunch of music, the internet, & etc..., lag free. Also, my system is almost 5 years old and if I had a mobo that allowed OCing, it'd be perfectly fine.

mmcduff
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
its sort of like FPS benches... you cant tell the difference between 70fps and 70000fps, but you would rather have 70000fps because it is an average. the 70fps may go as low as 20fps and as high as 120fps. you want to have it fast for the times you really need it, even though it may be unnecceary other times

Avid6eek
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
The Chinese government is working hard on producing a microprocessor of their own. They don't want to be relying on western technology. AMD and Intel may not be the only CPU makers in 3 years. As for what else to expect...who knows. I don't really think processors will really hit 10Ghz by then, but they will perform better per Mhz than current CPUs do. Air cooling will probably be long gone, and water cooling should be the standard.

omga14
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
check out the articles. they are talking about a reconfigurable processor. want a dsp or a gpu it's either one.

omga14
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.rojakpot.com/default.aspx?location=3&var1=43&var2=0">this is the site.</a>

Assimilator87
06-15-04, 02:26 PM
CPU(s) are the least of our worries. Internet is the moneymaker. Paying $40 a month for 256kbps is way too much. It is also way too slow. Tried downloading a full game? It takes forever. An even bigger ripoff than Cable or DSL is Dial-up. AOL and MSN charge over $20 a month. Why hasn't the price gone down? It's so obsolete. Internet is a ripoff, but we can't live without it in this era.<BR><BR>-/>()57 #2()()<BR>