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Colin
06-18-04, 12:17 PM
Well this is the cooling forum right?

I know the majority of people out there use air but there are still a few watercoolers and phase change guys. ;)

So let's see your temps!

I guess I'll start...

http://members.lycos.co.uk/csmo/Computer/P4%202.4C/Stable/Temp.gif

PhoenixAshes
06-18-04, 12:29 PM
Hey Colin, Where'd you get that monitoring software?

http://www3.kfurcadiavale.com:81/katryn/phoenixcomp/mbm100.jpg

My 2.4 533FSB system temps.

Colin
06-18-04, 12:34 PM
Hey Colin, Where'd you get that monitoring software?
A copy of HW Monitor should be on your driver CD, if not you can always download Motherboard Monitor (http://mbm.livewiredev.com/download.html). :)

Assimilator87
06-18-04, 12:43 PM
Can any tell me how Motherboard monitor stacks up to PC Wizard? My load temp right now is 54C, but it's a really cool day.

PhoenixAshes
06-18-04, 12:44 PM
I've got MBM5 running on both my machines. I was wondering cause I don't really like the layout of either MSI's or Gigabyte's monitoring software. I take it that's the one you get with Abit's boards?

ted
06-18-04, 01:33 PM
i use asus probe. im averaging 49C idle but with prime95 its been all the way to 65C! (stock coolers can GTH):)

c0ldweller
06-18-04, 02:28 PM
That's a bit too hot for me, but just preference. I use ASUS Probe as well and churn out 30C idle and 44C load w/ a stock HSF. Not too bad ;) .

MafiaMoe
06-18-04, 02:46 PM
I have the huge Zalman cooler that has performed beyond my expectation and is silent compared to my case fans (and not to mention my screaming computer that sits next to it in the row of 4 comps i have, Thermaltake... must i say more???). The computer idles at 37C and gets up to 51C when running 3DMark03 (score is 5888 btw) This is an AMD 64 3000+ overclocked to 2.2GHz (with no increase to any voltages)

PCgeek
06-18-04, 02:53 PM
IDLE: 46C CPU, 38C Case

Once we get the AC running in here my case will go down to 30C and the CPU under 40C idle, the room is 83F rite now so yeah we need an AC lol

PhoenixAshes
06-18-04, 05:06 PM
I definitely know the feeling about needing some AC there, PC. I guess up here in Oregon, they don't think they need it. I've resorted to turning off F@H during the day to keep my system running cooler. It's idling at 103F(39C) right now and it's about 85F in the apartment with all the windows and doors open to try and catch a breeze.

PCgeek
06-18-04, 07:56 PM
Well we got a split system AC for the living room. Its mostly installed. All it needs is for the hoses to be connected from the cooling end to the compressor

Ginsu543
06-18-04, 10:59 PM
My system runs at 45C cpu and 32C mobo at idle, 52C cpu and 34C mobo under load. I think I really need to upgrade the fan on my heatsink because I only get 3000 rpm out of the Vantec fan. I want to get a Tornado, but I'm afraid the noise level would drive me nuts. But I think I can get more MHz out of my XP Mobile if I can just get the temps down...

NotMyBest2Day
06-18-04, 11:39 PM
well i use Fahrenheit because i live in america, so i took both a pic of F and C from MBM5. those are load temps, and they're down a little bit from norm. it's a little bit cooler in here right now than it was earlier when i was at 107/129 (42C/54C). i don't have idle temps because i run SETI@home 24/7.

Fahrenheit (http://www.notmybest2day.us/misc/pics/mbm5-f.gif)
Celsius (http://www.notmybest2day.us/misc/pics/mbm5-c.gif)

Ace
06-19-04, 08:45 AM
Load
2200MHz - 41-44C
2442MHz w/ 2.13V, side of case off - 46-47C

Idle
2200MHz - 36C
2442MHz w/ 2.13V, side of case off - 38C

(all these are diode temps)

Mobo - 24C (cool day)-28C (hot day)

VC "idle"- 43-44C GPU, 39-40C RAM

therealwesty
06-19-04, 09:04 AM
Idle:
Case: 24ºC
CPU Diode: 46ºC
CPU Socket: 39ºC
R420 Core Diode: 42ºC

Load - Prime95:
Case: 24ºC
CPU Diode: 52ºC
CPU Socket: 45ºC
R420 Core Diode: 75ºC (3DMark03) :eek:

The case temperature reading is always right on or one degree above room temperature when the case fans are on high speed. The CPU cooler is connected to the motherboard and uses the Asus Q-Fan onboard fan controller. The CPU fan speed varies from 3800-5600 RPM depending on load.

Ace
06-19-04, 10:30 AM
Idle:
CPU Diode: 46ºC
CPU Socket: 39ºC

Load - Prime95:
CPU Diode: 46ºC
CPU Socket: 39ºC

Are you serious?? :eek: That TMD fan w/ Q-fan must be quite effective

therealwesty
06-19-04, 11:14 AM
Ha ha h woops.. edited my original!

Ace
06-19-04, 12:27 PM
Ha ha, I was wondering what I'd been doing wrong all these years. ;)

SSL
06-19-04, 07:17 PM
mines idle rite now but its at 39c, 12x200 1.625v

in54n3
06-20-04, 12:16 PM
i just took out the front filter on the antec sonata, i forgot to clean that off....since i built it. so once i cleaned that off, i moved some wires around, and took out 2 hdd holders i wasnt using, i got my case from 31 to 29, cpu was runnnin 42 yestorday, today its 44.

im using the vantec aeroflow with a 2500 clocked at 2.2ghz (200x12) @ 1.65 volts...im also thinking of undervolting it, should i try that?

Avid6eek
06-20-04, 04:11 PM
Internal: 73F
Processor: 95F (35C)

Stubmaster
06-21-04, 01:14 AM
CPU idle: 25ºC
CPU load: 32ºC
System: 23ºC

PCgeek
06-21-04, 06:09 PM
dang shizzy and stubmaster, ur cpu temps are equal to or lower than my case temps lol

Slumpy
06-21-04, 06:55 PM
Heres my temps on water with my Pressie @ 3.6 Full load with 2 F@H goin

http://www.dfakills2.com/comptemps.JPG

in54n3
06-22-04, 11:28 AM
fixed my temps, 31C case 42C cpu :)

Stubmaster
06-22-04, 11:48 PM
I turned the AC up a bit and got my temps down to:

CPU: 23ºC
System: 21ºC

Viper409
06-23-04, 09:11 PM
My current temps are:
Load: CPU@45, Sytem@38, Ambient at least 25.
Idle: CPU@43, Sytem@38, Ambient same.

I'll be moving in a month or so into a house with AC, so those temps should drop quite a bit.

in54n3
06-23-04, 09:52 PM
im so happy with my work :) it actually did something very noticlible with the temps :)

Ginsu543
06-24-04, 04:53 AM
Viper, you only get a 2C difference between idle and load cpu temps?! Man, either something's wrong with those readings or you've got an incredible heatsink! And you get no change in system temps? On my rig, cpu temps rise ~10C and the mobo temp ~2C, and I have a Thermalright SLK-800A heatsink.

Viper409
06-24-04, 09:35 PM
I've got a Thermaltake Volcano 7 on there. I only paused Folding for about 3 or 4 minutes before taking those idle temps. I wouldn't be surprised if they would go a degree or two lower after a while, but that might be about it. This is also with the fan on low. Temps drop 2 or 3 degrees on high, but I can't take the noise. I can't wait for AC.

EDIT: Full load w/fan on high CPU:41C
Idle w/fan on low CPU: 41C, but only after a minute or two.

Shufty
06-24-04, 10:04 PM
CPU: 34C
System: 34C

I've had tham both sub 20C when I it half out the window :D

PhoenixAshes
06-25-04, 08:03 AM
Well, my 92mm Tornado is slowly traversing it's way up I-5 as we speak. It left L.A. early this morning and even though they're expecting it to not be here until Tuesday, I kinda expect it on Saturday. *Keeping my fingers crossed*

berty
06-28-04, 10:23 PM
I have some odd temps to display and i want to know how to copy my asus utility to show all of you? I try a right click to copy and it won't let me. Any suggestions?

ElrichMeister
06-29-04, 12:14 AM
the print screen button next to scroll lock, and then paste in either photoshop or paint, which ever one you have

c0ldweller
06-29-04, 02:02 PM
For some reason, my Prin Scrn button doesn't work :confused: . So I just use FRAPS ;) .

berty
06-29-04, 03:08 PM
mine does not either??? what is fraps so I can do it?

PhoenixAshes
06-29-04, 03:19 PM
Never got to see what, if any, difference that Tornado would make with my 2.4B. I have it running on my 2.8C now with Idle temps of 36C. Case temp is 26C. Haven't gotten it under full load since my wife and I are now sharing a system.

Kentaro
06-30-04, 11:39 AM
how u get ur cpu in -30 degree colin

therealwesty
06-30-04, 01:02 PM
Colin has a Prometia phase change cooler for his CPU. He recently put a VapoChill phase change on his videocard too. Phase change uses compressor and appropriate coolant and I know Colin has put a better coolant substance in his prommy. Basically the compressor compresses the coolant gas into a liquid and then pumps it off to the evapourator head which is on the CPU. When the coolant evapourates back into a gas it draws the heat energy from the CPU (some physical laws at work) to drop the temperature below 0ºC.

P.S. I am only answering for Colin cause I know he said he's be away for the next six days.

Devils00Champs
06-30-04, 11:41 PM
now that i finally got my 947u and tornado setup going, my temps are

43 full load
36 idle (F@H turned off for around 10 min)

The tornado is running at half speed.

antilizard
07-05-04, 11:28 PM
Case, 30 C
CPU, w/folding@home 42 C

Just changed my comp to a mobile 2500+ and nf7-s recently..

PCgeek
07-06-04, 02:57 AM
nice, new vc yet?

antilizard
07-06-04, 08:43 PM
still had to glue that fan back on, had no super glue at home and had no time, so I had to borrow some from my friend

Lemme take a picture of my 'fixed' vc later... if it works

AMDKing
07-07-04, 01:54 AM
I use ASUS probe and right now I am at 38C for processor and 31C for mobo. During a load such as Sim City 4 Rush Hour It will go up to about 45C for CPU and 36C for mobo. I only have a stock setup with 4 Blue LED fans expelling what feels like cool air out of my case. All this is achieved in the balmy hot 91 degree temps of Memphis, Tennessee.

GNXtreme
07-07-04, 03:26 AM
Since the weather has gotten warmer here in OK my case temps have gone up to around 36'C and my loaded CPU temps are right at 43'C with my Tornado running about half speed.

Assimilator87
07-07-04, 02:36 PM
My CPU hit 62C yesterday at load. I'm trying to find the highest stable OC at stock voltage right now.

antilizard
07-07-04, 09:16 PM
is anyone using vantec aeroflow here?
My temp is going up to 48 degs underload(w/ folding@home on for the whole night)

Is that even normal? Or is vantec aeroflow just crappy? Cuz I have got like 3 case fans running, 1 at the front, 2 at the back

PCgeek
07-07-04, 11:18 PM
na something is wrong, the aeroflow is pretty good...

antilizard
07-08-04, 08:19 PM
So what is suppose to be normal temp. for the aeroflow?

PCgeek
07-10-04, 05:50 PM
at stock speeds it should do lower than 42C at load as long as ur case temp is below 30C...

antilizard
07-10-04, 08:28 PM
It's overclocked at 200Mhz x11.0 = 2200Mhz

PCgeek
07-10-04, 08:33 PM
nvm, sounds about right. 48C is normal for an OCed cpu at load, my mobile at 200x11 is doing 45C idle, but thats cause my case is 35C, my uncle should be comming to fill up the new AC system with freon soon...

antilizard
07-10-04, 10:15 PM
Ask him how to make a phase change cooler... oooo homemade prommy

PCgeek
07-11-04, 02:05 PM
lol, yeah he could hook me up with a dual cascade, but that would heat up the room too much, and its too much electricity...

chris000001
07-20-04, 11:24 AM
I jus got my Mobo to 21C thats 69F for those of you who dont kno C, and my CPU is 23C (73F) the room temp is like 78F, I love my new Jet4 works GREAT!!!!. once it starts to cool down here in FL like 50-40F im gonna run a duct from my window to the fan in the case door to get sum Xtreme low temps and super OC once i get my new mobo in like 2-3 weeks, i still need to devise a way to keep mositure out tho, i dont wanna fry all my stuff

Assimilator87
07-20-04, 04:58 PM
PCgeek, if a dual cascade would suck up too much electricity why don't you just get a single cascade? Aren't cascade coolers just compressors and stuff? If so wouldn't it only suck up as much electricity as any refrigerator would?

PCgeek
07-20-04, 05:50 PM
lol any phase change cooler would use too much electricity and expel too much heat. Unless I can get my hands on one of those water cooling units but can anybody tell me if they would be enough to cool a CPU???

gokusimpson
07-20-04, 11:54 PM
30C normal 38C load.

Assimilator87
07-21-04, 10:08 PM
Well, Colin said it's not worth the money to move to water cooling or peltier cooling. If you want to go water cooling, you may as well save a few hundred more and try to find a good deal on a phase change cooler.

crazygoat
08-08-04, 08:18 PM
system
abit nf7-s ver 2
athlon xp 2500@2.26
512mb dual channel corsair 2.5-4-4-8
powercolor 9800se stock till i get better cooling

my temps are
22C case
36C cpu while surfing the web


25C case
40C cpu while gaming

and idle ive seen 18 case and 32 cpu


using an extreme volcano 12 for a cpu cooler and 2 80mm case fans for case cooling plan to add a 120mm in the back

Sadistic
08-10-04, 07:35 PM
Using the boxed AMD HSF (copper baseplate attached to aluminum HS) lapped from 220 to 1500 grit. I was able to achieve this with my Barton 2500.

http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~ch832489/final.jpg

Mind you, my room was well AC'd, I used AS5, 512mb kingston dual channel in 2-3-2-11 1T.

grafton26
08-12-04, 11:01 AM
well at the moment mine is running at 22c, gets up to about 42c on a warm afternoon. heatsink/fan is ThermalTake Volcano 10+

I would show a pic but I don't know how to put an image into a post LOL :D


edit- cpu stays under 39c@ full load with prime95 running , Swapped cases to one that had better airflow lol, also modded old super socket 7 heatsink & fan to replace poxy little passisve heatsink with almost no paste on it form new, northbrige is currentl @21c has been as low as 15c and as high as 25c, It used to get up to 29 most of the time:)

Rudegar
08-12-04, 12:03 PM
right now
55c cpu0
52c cpu1

motherboard 36

damm hot palimo 2000+ chips
i should change them with athlon 2800xp-m and get a colder and less noisy system :(

Crax
08-13-04, 05:13 AM
Ive finally reached temps worth posting about!!! I set up my initial "duct mod" tonight!!! Its in its first stage, so I only hope to see improvements as the weather gets cooler... Ive also decided I cant OC any further than I have right now, so my whole point in further cooling modding is to lower the noise level and see just how cool I can get on air :) Anyways, new temps are as follows:
CPU:
30C \ 86F Idle
36C \ 96F Load
Case:
17C-20C \ 62F-68F

Outside Temp:
11C \ 52F

Before I did my mod I was idle around 38C-40C (cpu) So as you can see its reduced my temps a ton! I hope to post some pics of my lovely mod soon :)

Edit-
New temps as the night gets cooler :)
Temps (http://www.geocities.com/craxadix/temps.JPG)



Just another question... Since I now have cool air from outside blowing directly into my computer... does this run a risk of condensation? I went ahead and turned off my duct and pulled it out of the window because I started thinking... "here in a few hours the dew is gonna start to form... the air will become more humid... and if that humid air is blowing into my computer... that could cause a problem." what do you all think? Anyone know how to avoid this... or how to control it? Thanks :)

grafton26
08-13-04, 06:20 AM
you could try a de-humidifier , most aircons will do the trick LOL:)

Crax
08-13-04, 12:09 PM
Haha... How would I use a dehumidifier on the inside of my machine? Much too large to simply mod into the case! :-p

PCgeek
08-13-04, 03:16 PM
it shouldnt be a problem since ur blowing cool air into a hot surface, the water should evaporate. If the air outside is hotter than the air in ur case then it will condense

Crax
08-13-04, 03:28 PM
Im just wondering about the moisture period... If say, I were to leave the duct running overnight and it started getting humid outside and dew started forming... then it was blown into my case... I know electricity + moisture = bad news... Think it would be ok though?

an3cdote
08-13-04, 09:14 PM
Other than Crax, has someone else built or modded a 'cooling system'? And what about pics of the creations?

A question. My rig is sitting right under my room's(floor) AC. It's a Very big(and quiet) 4HP AC, most of the time it's on,and from time to time, I turn it off, cause it's getting to cold.
Do I still need to add a special cooling system, or more fans if I plan to oc the cpu?
I just thought, If someway i'll direct the cold air from the ac right inside the case, is it a good idea for cooling?

ElrichMeister
08-13-04, 10:31 PM
what are your temps, and the AC right into the case can cause condensation if its cold enough so be careful with that, it can overwhelm the little area inside the case

Crax
08-13-04, 10:35 PM
Sorry, I dont have any pics of my mod yet... but I guess Ill buy a digital camera this week just cause Im proud and want to show it off!

ADRAMELK
08-26-04, 12:44 PM
I think I could be running a little hot here...

CPU Idle 60 C / 134 F
MB 41 C / 105 F
ASUS A7V600
XP3200+ with stock HSF

I dont have a case fan right now - but this still is very high for the case being open....

Any ideas on why it running so hot?

EWeezy
08-26-04, 01:54 PM
ADRAMELK...thats VERY HOT!!...stop using the stock cooler...it sucks...doesnt matter if the case is open of not...u need fans sucking hot air out and bringing cool air in...if its open its not really doing much...if u keep running ur CPU that hot...it will die pretty soon

Nova
08-26-04, 02:10 PM
like me cus i don't have 3$ ;) but yea those temps is what i would call insane, get off stock cooling pronto

khilladi
08-26-04, 02:46 PM
38C idle
42-45C surfing the web and chatting on msn

50-53C playing rise of nations or nfsu
and 2 hours into prime95 (blend) it has gone up to 58C

i am still on the intel fan which came with the pc.. and the proccecor is currently running 2.4 GHz..

ADRAMELK
08-27-04, 11:16 AM
I bought a swell case fan for 10$. A Thermaltake - 78 CFM @ 21 dBa - though I doubt it will really be that quiet. Waiting for that to come in.

I the meantime - I turned the A/C on and stopped overclocking my ram.

Down to 56 C CPU
38 C MB

I was thinking about getting an active cooler for the northbridge. I think the MB temp sensor is right there next to it thats why the MB temp is so high.

Anyone recommend a good northbridge fan?

I found this one http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/northbridge_fans.html

But seems its out of stock :(

Rudegar
08-27-04, 11:44 AM
i'd say that as long as a cpu dont go over 67C load i would not worry i would not smile or be mellow but i would not cry and tear out my hair :)

Devils00Champs
08-29-04, 11:41 AM
Im running at 47C idle with stock cooler and AC in my room now that ive changed to A64 3000+ and MSI K8N Neo Platinum. Something wrong with those temps?

crazygoat
08-31-04, 11:38 AM
new temps for the 2600-m 42C idle 49C load
at 2.64ghz 13x202@1.8

EWeezy
09-02-04, 11:04 AM
36 Idle
41 Load

:D

therealwesty
09-02-04, 12:13 PM
Very nice!

Nova
09-02-04, 02:53 PM
47 idle, 52 load ... :( stock cooling blows the big one

Sadistic
09-02-04, 04:50 PM
My system makeup has since changed quite a bit. I had to slave a hard drive to my primary master in order to hook up a DVD rom to the computer. In doing so I had to move my second hard drive to the rack where the primary hard drive is, which happens to be in front of the 2 intake fans on the front of the case.

Earlier today I ran some tests to check my temps under prime with the front 2 case fans on and off to test negative pressure. Though the ambient was the same in the room and case the cpu core temps changed between tests. 48.5C with the fans and 51.5C without.

Im going to go ahead and disconnect the front 2 fans and see if the 3C difference with and without the front 2 fans crops up again. Also it should be noted after doing the hardware move, I cleaned up ALOT of the wiring such that 3 case fans and 2 drives share each of the wires leaving the PSU (Im stuck with a sucktastic PSU that only has 2 molex wires). I also blew all the dust out of the case using an air compressor with a airbrush attachment and then a leaf blower for good measure.

I just wish I had a digi cam to show a before and after of the rewiring I did on my case, Im so proud =)

http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~ch832489/CURRENT.jpg

EWeezy
09-02-04, 06:04 PM
lol did u take a WC3 screenshot and use that as your wallpaper? awesome

Nova
09-02-04, 06:08 PM
DOTAAAAA, err i mean, nice

Sadistic
09-02-04, 08:23 PM
Yes to both replies hehe. Im still doing some more Prime right now but by the looks of things my computer will run the settings seen in the above screenshot with 1.65vcore stable which is always a good thing.

33C ambient
50C core

and no hicups yet from Prime. I finally rounded up the cash to pick up a SP-97 and a Vantec Tornado to replace the stock AMD cooler im using but all my usual spots are out of stock on the cooler. All the better I suppose hurricane since that hurricane thats barreling down on florida is expected to pass within a few miles of where im at. Coolers and heatsinks are no good to me with no power to feed the machine =P

btw Nova, your image recognition is scary. Im surprised you picked up the map with so little of it showing.

*edit Stopped Prime after letting it go nuts for 4 hours with no hicups, I finally realized today that my vcore was 1.7 because I used to run the computer @2.2ghz but had to stop due to poor LAN conditions at my friends place (10x10 room, 3 comps/moniters/warm bodies).

ElrichMeister
09-02-04, 09:37 PM
nice, with that tornado your ambient temps in the case will drop too.

Nova
09-02-04, 09:48 PM
really? how about this, your playing with sven, and hi's ulty is on right now, and i'm guessing its lvl 1 or two, depending since you only have 2 skills pumped (stormbolt and aura), but then again you coulda pumped stats as well (getting scaryer?) and by the looks of it its the end of the game, and your winning, since you seem to be on sentinel and in the middle of the scourge base with plenty of dead gouls around, so its definetly a lvl 3 ulty with pumped stats (boy i better be scaring you now)

*and that better be an endgame where your buddies left, or your very rich (i hope you got monkey king crowbar then) cus ur just asking for a whooping with that 2.5k gold

Sadistic
09-02-04, 09:54 PM
really? how about this, your playing with sven, and hi's ulty is on right now, and i'm guessing its lvl 1 or two, depending since you only have 2 skills pumped, but then again you coulda pumped stats as well (getting scaryer?) and by the looks of it its the end of the game, and your winning, since you seem to be on sentinel and in the middle of the scourge base with plenty of dead gouls around, so its definetly a lvl 3 ulty with pumped stats (boy i better be scaring you now)


!!

Level 16 Sven, lev3 ulti, max devotion aura, and bloodlust. 94-96+310

And your DOTA recognition skills frighten me sir. We have an addict on our hands folks =)

Nova
09-02-04, 09:55 PM
:) my buddies are upsessed with it, so i play it with them every once in a while :)

TKDJ007
09-09-04, 11:52 PM
50 Temp (sorry too busy to shut the comp down)
runnin 2004 ( highest settings 1024-768 81-70 fps runnin fraps and
Doom 3 med
you know what that mean 640x480 33 fraps ) 9600xt 128bit 128MB celestica gold edition
2.0 ghz remember 15-30 min (still playin unreal at 17 min) yes i'm losing
52 at 21 min gotta go!

getcha later!

TKDJ007
09-09-04, 11:59 PM
************************in COP
Help me put this one out of it's misery
it's inhibiting me
I'll tell you what for.
sick fans and a kick ass nforce chipset
i know what it's capable of.

gokusimpson
09-10-04, 01:18 AM
really? how about this, your playing with sven, and hi's ulty is on right now, and i'm guessing its lvl 1 or two, depending since you only have 2 skills pumped (stormbolt and aura), but then again you coulda pumped stats as well (getting scaryer?) and by the looks of it its the end of the game, and your winning, since you seem to be on sentinel and in the middle of the scourge base with plenty of dead gouls around, so its definetly a lvl 3 ulty with pumped stats (boy i better be scaring you now)

*and that better be an endgame where your buddies left, or your very rich (i hope you got monkey king crowbar then) cus ur just asking for a whooping with that 2.5k gold

I've been playing WC3 for a long time and I still have no idea what Defense of the Ancients is. Wtf is it? I guess I can assume it's a great custom game....

Oh ya...my temps... 29 No load, 38 load.

De_CooL_FooL
09-22-04, 06:08 PM
MY CPU IS UNDERVOLTED BY 0.15 and its running gr8

Crax
09-22-04, 06:25 PM
Lol... Uh... OK :) What are your specs? Welcome to PCStats BTW!

Sadistic
09-25-04, 11:33 AM
http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~ch832489/newtemps.jpg

I had to disconnect my DVD Rom in order to keep the 12v rail above 11.80. Im worried that ill loose system stability if it drops any further than that under load. Currently, my PSU isnt of the best make due to finances. 18A on the 12v rail is the sticker spec max. And I think im fairly close to hitting that.

2 hard drives @ 2A a peice.
CPU @ 8A-ish
CD Burner @ 1A-ish
8x 80mm Fans @ 2A
Tornado @ 1A
Not sure how much my GF Ti4600 is drawing from the AGP's 12v pin. And taking into account that those sticker numbers assume optimal temps inside the PSU (like 25C or something absurd like that) my total amps under heavy load is probably more like 14-15 instead of 18A.

Crax
09-25-04, 01:01 PM
I thinks you need a new psu? What do you have right now, sorry if you posted it somewhere and I missed it.

Sadistic
09-28-04, 05:04 PM
Its the Turbolink 420watt that came with the case (I know, I know, not a good move on my part). When I was building the system initially I only had enough to cover the Barton 2500, Mobo, memory, case, and a tube of AS5.

I had to use my old hard drives, burner, video card, and other peripherals from my Athlon 800 to keep the cost down.

Im sorry in advance to all the 1024x768 users out there. I just loaded this post at work and realized its sorta on the big size. Ill try to resize and repost it when I get a chance.

M I R A G E
10-02-04, 07:43 AM
Damn hot computer.
Everest says CPU - 52 Celcius, Mainboard - 31 Celcius
Thermal diode connected to Fan controller say CPU - 57 Celcius, Case - 35 Celcius.

So come on, It's too hot isn't it. I KNEW it!. Im gunna put some arctic silver 5 on my CPU tonight. I have XP 2600, 5900XT OC'ed [Getting an arctec silencer for that], 4 case fans and a silent Tagan PSU.

berty
10-02-04, 08:04 AM
I just put the sp94w/the tornado 92mm and my temps were 41 idle and 54 w/a load. But w/ that new heatsink and fan I've dropped to 24 idle and 31 loaded. I can't believe what a differece!

EWeezy
10-02-04, 03:40 PM
Mirage...those temps are kinda high...

mine: (updated)

33 idle
37 load

:D

M I R A G E
10-03-04, 05:06 AM
Ok then, last night I replaced the thermal paste with Arctec Silver 5.

First time - scared the hell outa me. Did it, and it wouldn't boot. BSOD. Thermal diode crazy - up to 65 down to 50 up to 55 down to 48.
I removed the heatsink and the thermal paste had only touched about the top half of the heatsink. Hence crappy contact [none in places].

So I cleaned it all again, and then redid it all with a layer about twice as thick.
Well it's made a difference.
New temps. Idle CPU - 48, Case - 33
Load CPU - 55, Case - Didn't check, but sure as hell lower.
I know it could be lower, and I should've sanded the base of the heatsink cos it was crappy but I'm not gunna take it apart again unless I see it reach 60.

PS. I have two intake and two exaust fans in normal places. If I installed a fan in the side as an intake [7cm below CPUFAN, 9cm forward of CPUFAN] would it lower temps again?

phill9800
10-03-04, 11:47 AM
my temps are 43c for the cpu under a full load and my case temp is just 27c.. thats with a not so good case, but with two exhaust fans and a front 80mm fan bringing some air in.. not bad i guess for a xp1800... although the outside temp is about 13c.. its not very warm today!

gokusimpson
10-03-04, 03:32 PM
I have two intake and two exaust fans in normal places. If I installed a fan in the side as an intake [7cm below CPUFAN, 9cm forward of CPUFAN] would it lower temps again?

You should have more fans moving air out than in. It creates "negative pressure" and keeps temps down.

M I R A G E
10-03-04, 04:03 PM
How should I engineer this. I have room for two in the back, two in the front, and one in the side. Shall I have all the front and back blowing out, then one in the side drawing in. I can see this would work, as the side fan would be more efficient, as the air is actually dragging in the direction that it is trying to push air anyways.

I dont want to set up the side fan to blow out, as this will counteract the CPU fan and may lead to less effective cooling of the CPU.

I currently have it configured so that i have 2 intake in the front, 2 exaust in the back, and nothing in the side as the one there was too loud and I haven't replaced it yet with a silent one. I'll get one for that soon.

bluegreenshxt
10-03-04, 06:48 PM
a slow one pulling in on the side will do nicely...as you have to remember you have a psu fan too...so 2 pulling air out the bak, 1 pulling air out on the psu, 2 pulling air in the front, 1 pulling air in the side for your cpu...3 in, 3out...should work nicely

M I R A G E
10-03-04, 07:42 PM
Ill be a little MORE effective than that too. I will have the two in the front, and one in the side as intake. Then ill have the two in the back, TWO in th PSU though they run slower to be silent, and Ill have an arctic exaust system on my GFX card which should help lower temps by a few more decimal points.
The GFX card cooler is for silence more than cooling, but every little helps when your case temp is 37C

gokusimpson
10-04-04, 01:17 AM
I have 1 80mm on the front pulling in, 2 40mm on my hdd pulling in, 1 80mm on the side going out, 2 80mm on the back going out, and 1 80mm from my PSU going out. It works great.

Just recently, I took out the 80mm from the front becuase I think it's redundant. I have holes on the top of my case so any air going out will be replaced by cool air through the holes.

Sadistic
10-04-04, 03:33 PM
I fixed the link to the temps pic that I posted. But my temps have since dropped even after a bump up in FSB speed.

I went from 182FSB to 192FSB, multiplier is still 11. 2112 Mhz. Im also not using an XP Mobile chip. 1.65vcore, unless it fails sometime between when I post this and 3 hours 30min when I get home to check it.

When I woke up this morning I had the following temps:
Room: 75F
Ambient: 22C
Core: 38.5C

Im a bit concerned since the temps appear to have dropped quite a bit compared to the pic I posted on page 10 and my CPU speed has increased. I thought maybe it was more layout changes I made to the case. During the hurricane I spent about 3 hours putting automotive corrugated split tubing on all of the PSU and fan wires and bound them to the case chasis using black twist ties.

Right now the computer is on mandatory 24 hour prime stress test. The house temp at my place will remain between 77-78F. Im pretty worried that something just isnt right with my computer. Prior to the split loom I had a pretty clean wire setup. Is there any chance the temp drop is due to the AS5 going through a breakin period?

in54n3
10-04-04, 11:19 PM
i wouldnt be worryed that the temp...dropped

make sure when u touch the heatsink it isnt blistering hot and it should be around 35C if its cool to the touch

omga14
10-05-04, 02:12 AM
34c case
43 cpu

khilladi
10-05-04, 08:04 AM
well it's pretty chilly in here :)

23C
30C idle

25C
38 load

Sadistic
10-05-04, 02:57 PM
i wouldnt be worryed that the temp...dropped

make sure when u touch the heatsink it isnt blistering hot and it should be around 35C if its cool to the touch


I checked it when I got home. Room temp was 74, ambient case was 21C, core was 38. It was slightly warm to the touch.

EWeezy
10-05-04, 04:45 PM
it should be...38 degrees is like somewhere close to 100 degrees Faarenheight...so it's still gonna be somewhat warm

Sadistic
10-05-04, 05:40 PM
it should be...38 degrees is like somewhere close to 100 degrees Faarenheight...so it's still gonna be somewhat warm

the thing that worries me is that immediately after replacing the stock cooler with the SLK 947U + Tornado my load temps were 41-41.5C. As seen in the screenshot i posted, I had these temps running 11x182 (2002mhz).

Im having a hard time pinning down what would account for a 3C drop in load temps. Especially when you take into account that im running 11x193 (2123mhz).

Its the kinda situation that makes me give "The Suspicious Face (tm)" to my computer just before I turn it on. =)

EWeezy
10-05-04, 07:05 PM
the load temps dropped?...who the hell cares why...they are cooler...thats all that matters

WeStSiDePLaYa
10-11-04, 04:14 AM
well im going to list my delta temps as actual temps dont give an accurate indication of how a cooling system is performing.

so these temps are from my tdx,maze4 gpu and nb, with a bix2 and mcp600 watercooling setup.

my cpu idle delta is about 7C, cpu load delta is about 12-13C
my NB idle delta is about 5C, NB load delta is about 7C
my gpu idle delta is about 6-7C, my gpu load delta is about 15-16C

these are with 1.9vcore, 1.9vdd, and my vmodded gpu at around 1.64vgpu.

mugatu
11-24-04, 03:35 PM
My first build - MB GIGABYTE GA-8IPE775-G 865PE
LGA775 P4 2.8GHz HT 800MHz fsb 1MB L2 cache
ATI 9600XT 256MB
Corsair 2x512 DDR400
Seagate 160GB HD Serial
NU 16xDVD+/-RW
XP Pro

My case came with a 420W PS and 4 case fans

Currently running idle at 55 C and the highest it's gotten
is 63 C. I'm not overclocking yet.

What's the best way to keep this cpu cool without
going over $75 (rest of my budget)?

bluegreenshxt
11-24-04, 08:14 PM
how are your case fan arranged?? fans on the top/ back should be exhaust...fans on the side/front should be intake...

if you want..get a new hsf...thermalright xp120 or 90 with a good fan...and the socket 755 adapter..

or a zalman 7000 that fits socket 755...

a coolermaster hyper48 is pretty good..but its more geared towards quiet freaks...

Wolfgang
11-24-04, 11:24 PM
My first build - MB GIGABYTE GA-8IPE775-G 865PE
LGA775 P4 2.8GHz HT 800MHz fsb 1MB L2 cache
ATI 9600XT 256MB
Corsair 2x512 DDR400
Seagate 160GB HD Serial
NU 16xDVD+/-RW
XP Pro

My case came with a 420W PS and 4 case fans

Currently running idle at 55 C and the highest it's gotten
is 63 C. I'm not overclocking yet.

What's the best way to keep this cpu cool without
going over $75 (rest of my budget)?


THAT HOT?!

I'm 35C load (cool apartment and a Northwood core). I have the Thermalright SLK (all copper) heatsink with a coolmaster fan attached. You should wait until you can afford a good (not thermaltake) water cooloing system.

bluegreenshxt
11-24-04, 11:27 PM
THAT HOT?!

I'm 35C load (cool apartment and a Northwood core). I have the Thermalright SLK (all copper) heatsink with a coolmaster fan attached. You should wait until you can afford a good (not thermaltake) water cooloing system.

He has a prescott...you dont...so there's a big difference...

TT's watercooling does suk..the bigwater is okish decent though...but the best is custom watercooling...

Wolfgang
11-25-04, 02:54 PM
Yeah, I know, I said I have Northwood. Still, that's hot. My next build will be a dual core AMD. That's a ways off. My computer is 85% media encoding and low CPU power stuff. I'll stick with my rig for a time and eventually get the fastest Prescott while I wait for dual core AMD (and the next Elder Scrolls to come out). Maybe next year I'll change to a Pressy.

Rudegar
11-25-04, 04:49 PM
dualcore will not be a gaming helper in a big way untill they make it possible to access the video card driver from more then one thread
because the games are still so video card depending

Wolfgang
11-25-04, 07:48 PM
Okay, I just figure I'll make myself wait. Though I have the money, I don't see the point in dropping $500 on a stinkin video card to play a short game like Half Life 2 for a few FPS. Oblivion is the next big game for me that can't be a disapointment (doom3 and Far Cry's second half). That's 500, its rent $. I rather buy stocks for $500. I'm betting media encoding and multitasking will still be important to me in the future. So, dual core. And decoding HD or Blue ray will require more power to do the task in a reasonable amount of time. My system can run anything current, so what's the point? I've got nothing to upgrade. I'll have to wait until dual core to have a real differance and change of tasks.

Wolfgang
11-25-04, 08:31 PM
I did some looking. His Pressy temps certainly aren't rare. He should check out this affordable solution. No looks, just functionality.

http://www17.tomshardware.com/cpu/20041015/water_cooling-04.html#conclusion

edit: nevermind, the Prescott's media encoding isn;t anything special, Northwood again. Man Intel sucks.

Phaese
11-29-04, 09:55 PM
Heh... My case temp is 50C. My power supply fan was getting really noisy, so I took a wrench and whacked it. It got quieter (mostly because it's not moving at all now...). It really is sad; my case temp sometimes goes above my CPU temp...

Wolfgang
11-29-04, 10:35 PM
Heh... My case temp is 50C. My power supply fan was getting really noisy, so I took a wrench and whacked it. It got quieter (mostly because it's not moving at all now...). It really is sad; my case temp sometimes goes above my CPU temp...


Not possible.