Microsft XP x64 edition

[AMDfan]

Hey Guys.

Id like to raise the issue of Microsofts new 64 bit edition upgrade. Firstly i wanna know if it has to be purchased should an upgrade to AMD 64 be made.
I am making such an upgrade and just thought that i may need a new operating system. PLease share all views and opinions on Microsoft XP x64.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

[stlouis1]

the xp pro 64bit edition is in beta state and is freely downloaded at this point in time. keep in mind BETA STATE

heres a link
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/default.mspx

[AMDfan]

Do i have to get a 64bit operating system to run an AMD 64 bit processor?

[Zefram]

Microsoft had announce that if you have those Windows XP 32-bit edition, you can upgrade for free to 64-bit

and, 64-bit doesnt hold many advantages over 32-bit OS, and it need 64-bit driver which is mostly in beta packages.................

AMD64 isn't true 64-bit processor, it a hybrid and work well under 32 and 64-bit!

64 bit windows XP need application support, if not, it emulates the 32-bit to the program and thus, no performance increase..............
Better wait for full review on WinXP 64-bit and the full suit of drivers before jumping into it :D

[AMDfan]

So can I use my windows xp home on my new AMD 64 rig and upgrade to Windows 64 when its running smoothly

[stlouis1]

yes, you can use your regular win xp home on the athlon64

[Zefram]

So can I use my windows xp home on my new AMD 64 rig and upgrade to Windows 64 when its running smoothly
Yeah, you'd be glad to stick with the stable windows XP rather than going into the "unstable" windows 64.............

BUT, if the application is designed for 64-bit, and you run it on 64-bit OS, you'll get noticeable performance out of it..............
But not for games, you wont feel any differences on 32-bit and 64-bit OS..............
Anyway, AMD64 is a really powerful CPU for gaming, so, dont care for the 64-bit OS :D

[stlouis1]

im thinking of dual booting them when i get my A64, so i can get ahead faster on upgrading my microsoft certs

[AMDfan]

Thanks for the good news. I wasnt prepared to pay for another os. Is is fair to say Windows 64 isnt going to be worth investing in for quite a while.

Also, this may seem daft but can i remove my hard drive, put it in a new pc and have the same os etc or do i need to reinstall everything.

Whats dual booting btw...

Thanks

[stlouis1]

my general rule, dont use anything "new" from microsoft for at least 4-6months after its release. service pack 2 for example, i still havent touched that pos

[AMDfan]

my general rule, dont use anything "new" from microsoft for at least 4-6months after its release. service pack 2 for example, i still havent touched that pos

Im afraid ive gotta disagree. I use SP2 and its a godsend. There are so many little features which are so useful. I havent had a single problem with it yet. You should give it a go.

Do you know whether or not I can place my hard drive in a new computer and use my OS or is it not this simple. (its obviously not this simple is it).

Thanks

[stlouis1]

i've had problems with SP2, i must admit i like some of its added features, the firewall being more user friendly for one, but i've had too many problems with it for me to even suggest using it, others feel differently, i dont.

as for you second question about putting you current hard drive in a new machine. in colins tech tip archive there is a thread about this, here is the link, hope that answers your question
http://forum.pcstats.com/showthread.php?t=23859

keep in mind, its not a perfect process, microsoft says you're supposed to be able to do it without any problems or workarounds like this, but thats only true in rare cases. also if you use power management, swappin motherboards will disable these settings because ACPI drivers are installed during the original os install and cannot be modified without reinstalling windows. flashing a new bios can also disable these settings depending on the changes made in the bios. those are only a few examples

[Zefram]

Im afraid ive gotta disagree. I use SP2 and its a godsend. There are so many little features which are so useful. I havent had a single problem with it yet. You should give it a go.

Do you know whether or not I can place my hard drive in a new computer and use my OS or is it not this simple. (its obviously not this simple is it).

Thanks
Yes, i also use SP2, but then, most system integrators and IT managers wont deploy SP2 updates just yet................ there are quite a lot of issues with it..... (it wont be a problem for us End-Users)

And yeah, you can bring your OS along, but there will be many problem, and the traces of *old* hardware drivers may resides in the OS, and can cause incompatibility and thing.................... you better off formatting the HDD and reinstall the OS..............
And dont forgot, you gotta reactivate the WinXP once you transferred the HDD to new PC...........
Its not worth the trouble. Format and reinstall the OS, and you'll be happy with it :D

About dual-booting, you can set up 2 OS (example, Win 98 and XP)in different partition, and when the computer boot, you can select which OS you want to load...........
But i dont see this as useful, i dont see why people still insist in using windows 98 and such.............. :p

[AMDfan]

Thanks for the help. Im still waiting for my b-day next week so i can go and get my new set up. I cant wait. In the meantime im just browsing this site and learning so much.

Thanks

[stlouis1]

Yes, i also use SP2, but then, most system integrators and IT managers wont deploy SP2 updates just yet

the main reason i've only tried it and dont use it:D

[speedy11309]

i have heard that for current xp users, you will be able to upgrade for free to 64 bit. if not, i dont care cuz i can get it for free anyways. that goes with any piece of software. RIT, the college ill be attending, has a contract with M$ so any software i want from them i get for free. and also if youre in like software engineering, computer science, or it, you can basically get any software for free.