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nbaptista007
04-13-05, 07:34 PM
What you think about Asrock 939 A8X-M?A friend of mine told me that this is a cheap motherboard.Another option is the ABIT AX8 but a AMD forum menber told me that ABIT sucks with AMD!Can you tell me about a 100-150 Euros mb that goes well with AMD socket 939?
Nuno
nbaptista007
04-13-05, 07:53 PM
I know the ABIT has slots for PCI-Express. I don´t think that Asrock has PCI-express slots.It is important to have PCI-express slots,no?I think the AGP 8X will end next year!
bluegreenshxt
04-13-05, 08:47 PM
If you're getting a new graphics card, definitely go pci-express because that is the future and that is going to me more upgradable.
Abit makes very good motherboards that work very well with AMD cpus. I have no idea where you heard that from. Many people here have used an Abit NF7-S rev.2 w/ their AMD Athlon XP cpus and I'm sure they'll tell you it's a good board.
If you have a native 24-pin powersupply I would get a DFI Lanparty nF4 Ultra-D. It's a very good board. I bought mine for $177 Canadian, so in euros it shouldn't be that bad. If it is expensive, the Abit AX8 is a decent board as well.
gokusimpson
04-13-05, 09:01 PM
Abit making a bad mobo? Well maybe one with the Fatality board, but otherwise Abit really doesn't make bad boards. DFI would be the board to go with though.
nbaptista007
04-14-05, 07:40 AM
Another alternative is the motherboard Foxconn with the chip7 Nvideaforce4
therealwesty
04-14-05, 08:21 AM
Welcome to the forums nbaptista007!
Asrock is a low priced motherboard manufacturer. Most of their boards use the less popular chipsets and don't have the features of the teir1 boards. They are pretty reliable though, we build quite a few low cost systems in our shop with Asrock boards and have yet to have any major or unusual problems. Of all the low-cost board makers out there Asrock is the <b>only</b> one I would consider. Foxconn is another low-cost maker, I'd stay away from them.
Abit makes excellent boards. When I was buying my 939 setup Abit was actually my top choice but I couldn't get it because it wasn't available at the time. I would certainly recommend an Abit board.
nbaptista007
04-14-05, 08:45 AM
My dealer is asking 80 Euros for Asrock model 939A8X-M!Is the right price for a Asrock?
ElrichMeister
04-14-05, 11:44 AM
Yea my Abit is working nicely, i got for like $110, but its not PCIexpress, i would get a DFI
nbaptista007
04-14-05, 11:45 AM
Asrock doesn´t have a PCI-Express slot.So the choice is bettween Abit AX8 with chipset VIA or a Foxconn NF4 Ultra PCIE 939...
nbaptista007
04-14-05, 02:30 PM
The DFI Lanparty ultra D has good reviews and it´s only 165 Euros.So maybe this is my best bet!
bluegreenshxt
04-14-05, 02:35 PM
The Ultra-D is the best board out of them all.
I would choose Abit over Foxconn anyday. Abit makes much much better motherobards.
However, with the Ultra-D you will need a native 24-pin powersupply.
Hansaman
04-14-05, 03:03 PM
I have used Abit boards for the last three computers I have built/upgraded and they have worked extremely well with AMD cpus. I just bought an Abit A8V 3rd eye (last week) and an Athlon64 3200 (Winchester). The two are working together quite well. Big improvement over my NF7-S (rev.2) and AthlonXP 2600.
gokusimpson
04-14-05, 03:12 PM
Big improvement over my NF7-S (rev.2) and AthlonXP 2600.
If they weren't a big improvement, I'd be very surprised. :p :p :D :D
nbaptista007
04-14-05, 03:45 PM
However, with the Ultra-D you will need a native 24-pin powersupply.
Native 24-pin powersupply?How much it costs?
gokusimpson
04-14-05, 04:24 PM
A good one might run you 100 bucks or more. Antec Neopower or Enermax Noisetaker is good.
nbaptista007
04-14-05, 06:11 PM
A good one might run you 100 bucks or more. Antec Neopower or Enermax Noisetaker is good.
I don´t know if I want to spend so much money!I will check the price for a Abit A8X :rolleyes:
gokusimpson
04-14-05, 06:20 PM
You better get a good quality power supply or it might take your whole system down with it when it dies.
nbaptista007
04-14-05, 06:33 PM
You better get a good quality power supply or it might take your whole system down with it when it dies.
yes I knop what you mean,it used happen to me !the power supply crashed and my whole system down with it! :confused:
gokusimpson
04-14-05, 06:40 PM
That's probably the most effective way of learning-first hand. How much money are you willing to spend on the PSU? The antec and enermax PSUs that I recommended are just over 100 USD. Those PSUs are solid. If you have the money then get a PC Power and Cooling Turbo Cool 510. It's 200 bucks cheapest. :eek:
nbaptista007
04-14-05, 07:25 PM
You better get a good quality power supply or it might take your whole system down with it when it dies.
And with a Abit AX8?Will I need what kind of power supply?
gokusimpson
04-14-05, 07:50 PM
A native 24 pin PSU. Something like this (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-458&depa=0)
bluegreenshxt
04-14-05, 07:53 PM
What kind of graphics card do you plan on using?
A 420 watt Enermax Noisetaker ATX2.0 won't run you a lot of money and will power the DFI fine. Although I would get the 485 if you plan on having a better card.
With the Abit, it would again depend on the graphics card/other system components. I would get a 400watt+ one though.
Edit: Wow, that's expensive, goku!! Even the lighter one without active pfc is 93 USD!!!!! I got mine for 87 CAD! :D
nbaptista007
04-14-05, 08:15 PM
I don´t want the computer for games.I need to run some accountant software,but I don´t want a 32 bits CPU!So I will choose a 64 bits AMD with a nice motherboard and a cheap video card!
gokusimpson
04-15-05, 12:04 AM
Oh. You could probably go with an X300 or 6200. They are low end cards. They are about 60 dollars each. It's kind of high for that kind of card, but they are the cheapest.
You still need a quality power supply though.
therealwesty
04-15-05, 07:41 AM
If the Asrock board you were looking at before had onboard video that is going to be the most cost effective eay to go. The only real advantage PCI-Express will give you over 8xAGP is support for graphics card. PCI-Express was also designed to replace the PCI bus for add-pn expansion cards but there are not many of them on the market right now.
If you are just using the system for accounting I think the Asrock will prove reliable and dependable. Look for a board that has all the features you need onboard so you don't have to buy anything else. I'd still make sure you get a high quality PSU but an Enermax around 300-350W should be enough to power the machine.
I would look at the DFI and MSI Mobo's if you would like to have a Mobo that is more scallable in the future plus have the little extra snacks that come with them...and both are fairly easy to OC.
You just need to make a descion if you want to go PCI-Express or stay with AGP!!!
Then the only thing you are left with is to decide to get a SLI Mobo or settle for single video card slot.....you may want to hold off and buy a better Mobo rather than spend 100 euros save and spend 180 euros and get the BETTER board that will allow you to have more UPGRADABLE option in the future rather then locking your self into a cheap MoBo right now..
therealwesty
04-15-05, 08:14 AM
DFI is really an enthusiast based teir2 manufacturer. The DFI board would be great but you are going to end up paying for features you aren't going to be using in an accounting situation. Stick to a teir1 builder and get something with only the features you need.
The teir1 manufacturers are just the bigger companies like Asus, Abit, Gigabyte or MSI. They buy the chipsets in bigger volume so they usually get more of them and better support from nVidia or Via when building boards. The main advantage is a company like Asus is going to have deeper product lines with lower cost models that bear the same quality but have fewer features. Asrock is a subsidary of Asus which is a big reason I would suggest them if you are looking for a lower cost board.
nbaptista007
04-15-05, 08:46 AM
therearelwesty:
The Asrock 939 A8X-M doesn´t have PCI-Express slots.I will need a AGP video card.It does not seem good idea to buy a board without PCI-Express features.no?This is the future!
therealwesty
04-15-05, 08:57 AM
PCI-Express is the future. But your immediate needs for the system have to be met. You'll want PCI-Express if you are thinking up upgrading the videocard or adding a soundcard or gigabit network in the future. If all you are thinking of do is getting a new CPU down the road then you will likely need a new board anyway. Dual core CPUs and DDR2 support for AMD mean that both Intel and AMD will be shifting to a new socket within the next year.
I guess it depends on the upgrade plan right? If you are concerned about adding components to the system with the next year or so than PCI-Express will definitly have its advantage. If you just plan to build the system and then happily use it for itw job for the next year or two than it really doesn't matter.
nbaptista007
04-15-05, 12:00 PM
If you just plan to build the system and then happily use it for itw job for the next year or two than it really doesn't matter.
Well , today I´ve just seen Asus motherboards.I can get a Asus AV8 Deluxe for 119 Euros with AGP8X video card slots.The Asrock costs 80 Euros!It´s only 40 Euros more and it is a Asus! :cool:
nbaptista007
04-15-05, 01:16 PM
Therealwesty:
Some dealers says that the Asrock is too slowly!Is it true?
nbaptista007
04-15-05, 04:29 PM
What you think about Abit AX8 versus Asus A8V.The Asus use AGP technology and the Ram are cheaper than the ones for Abit.However,the Abit has the last technology PCI-express . But my dealer says for the same money I can buy a better AGP8x
When faced with Asus Vs Abit I always choose Abit... that's just my personal preference though...
stlouis1
04-15-05, 09:30 PM
agp vc's are still cheaper and will be around for a little while still, if money is a factor, i would go for that
nbaptista007
04-16-05, 08:34 AM
And Asrock?Should I avoid this mainboard?I read yesterday on Internet same good reviews about it...
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