View Full Version : Koolance EXOS 2 VS XP-120
just how much better is EXOS 2 (version 2 the newer one with two 120mm radiator and 3/8" inside diameter tubing) compare to the XP-120.
i just read up on the performance of xp-120. it's actually quite impressive, it pretty much seems it's the farthest you can take with air cooling.
i currently run a swiftech waterkit with one small 80mm radiator, i often have to have my smartfan II on full blast to cool the radiator to achieve reasonable cooling level in this hot california weather.
anyone experienced with this EXOS 2?... it looks pretty promising. are we taling about 5 degrees of difference compare to XP120? or 10? or if it's something insignificant as 1 degree. if that's the case, i think xp120 might be the way to go. bigger bang for the bucks.
The Koolance EXOS 2 review is HERE (http://gruntville.com/reviews/wc/koolance_exos_2/page4.php)
Its going to cost a lot though.......$350 for the Exos-2 and $50-60 for the CPU cooler......
The advantages of Water Cooling for me is :
You could buy a VGA waterblock and connect it to your current watercooling system. Video Cards are one hot mutha, normally with air the temps can reach up to 80 Degrees celcius........... with Watercooling i managed to bring it down to 40-50 degrees!
If you wanted more performance, you could always put more radiator and maybe have bigger aluminium-based reservoir........ big casing like Cooler Master Stacker have a lot of room to work with.........
And if you have 3 120MM Radiator, i think you could run the watercooling system on passive.......... the surface area of the radiator is enough to dispel the heat......
End of this month i'm going to buy those CM stacker casing and get a all-copper motorcycle radiator. We'll see how it turns out later on :D
End of this month i'm going to buy those CM stacker casing and get a all-copper motorcycle radiator. We'll see how it turns out later on :D
you will definitely have to show build pics if you get that motorcycle radiator for the system cooling:D that would be the ultimate insanity. i'm looking at building a danger den setup or getting the Swiftech H20-APEX "EXTREME DUTY". if i go the danger den route i'm getting the 3x120 radiator and using 3x120mm fans on like 7v's. that would definitely keep everything real cool. load temps would drop drastically from my air temps and it would be quiet.
this is going to have to cool both the cpu and gpu for some high overclocks. don't know how good the cpu is just yet but i've always felt that the vid card is being held back due to cooling issues. once i'm happy with the temps of the vid card i'll do the 1.6v bios mod, and if the new Nibitor has the option i'll try 1.7v's. if the temps stay below 50C at load then i'll leave it there and see just how high the 6800GT gpu can really go on water:D 480/1180 maybe:D?
i just noticed this:
The CPU temperature reported by nTune never topped 60C
i think he made a mistake. if the room temp was 72F and the max over for temps on the cpu was 11 then that would be 82F which is 27.7>C. now if he mean plus 11 in C then that would be 32.2C which is very nice. but 60C. i never touch that with my zalman 7000al/cu.
hey Omga i just found a review that compare a few blocks with the koolance one.
check out this page
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=154&type=expert&pid=5
it looks like the swiftech block, which i happen to have in my rig also, and the koolance block both come pretty close. but i think according to this review, the koolance is slightly better with lower resistance. i suppose due to the gold plated surface they use for the block. they claim to be actual 21k gold. anyways... that's all i could find in block comparision so far for the two.
i don't know how much longer i can wait.. i kinda wanna get it. consider my current resevoir is leakin coolant, i am kinda sick of it.
i think i might get it soon as newegg has a pair of dual channel ballstix back in stock and pick them both up with "pay later option". consider, i don't think watercooling kits are likely to drop price in the next few months or even memory might go up in price too.
i had to open my mouth.
got an email from newegg just now notifying me it's back in stock. so i bought it.
i'll let you know how it goes.
sweet. even though your cpu runs cooler than my clawhammer i can see what the delta is on average. also post some build pics if you can. i'd like to see that thing on one of our rigs. hope it all goes well.
did you buy the whole set or just the reservoir and radiators?
i bought the whole kit, although, F@king cheap a$$ koolance don't include water block in their kit. so i had to order the block and socket 939 adaptor from Coolerguys. they rock btw :D
ok it's been over 24 hours since you posted last here. i want to know what's going on with the water and i want to know NOW! young man............please:D
i just got the kit in the mail today. i am still in the office. but since i ordered the block somewhere else, it's coming down from WA, so i don't think it's gonna make it here till monday. i wasn't suppose to get the kit till monday too, but since i live 40 min away from newegg, whenever i order something it'll get here on the second day.
i'll let you know soon as i get it setup.
cool. i'm anxious to see what the temp drops are going to be for your rig. don't forget to take temp readings before you change over to water so you can let us know the before's and after's:D
so far my ballistix's been doing great. soon as i set it in. fired it up with 259mhz. just because that's the highest my CPU can go. and handles like a charm. i don't plan on maxing it out, i am happy with the way it is now. :D i am pretty confident this bad boy can go much higher as it's known for higher than 270 or 280 + with 2.8v.
now who wants to buy my winbond :D
ok... my block is still in transit in sacramento. looks like it won't make it here till tuesday. sorry Omga. :(
just be glad i don't know where you live man, keeping me in suspense like this ;) :D not your fault man. i am real anxious to see how it turns out. also compare the results when you can get them to when shiz got his Danger Den setup a while back.( http://forum.pcstats.com/showthread.php?t=31273). you guy's cpu's run about the same temps so it's a better comparison than to my 130nm cpu.
actually my motherboard tend to have a higher temp reading, but should be consistant as far as temp increase and decrease. i'll do a comparison of before and after.
Avid6eek
09-12-05, 08:41 PM
I'd like to see your results as well just to see how well that water cooling setup works.
it is simply AMAZING
i mean wow!, i recorded my temp before i put in the kit, idle was 42C and load was +10 of that so 52C. mind you, it's california.
after i put it in, it is now running at 35c idle and 41 Load. and that's with F@H running. i can now finally get back to Folding now that the temp's down.
i am sorry Omga, i don't have my camera right now, i left it at my friend's house but use your imagination. the kit is silver with blue LED on the control panels, blue coolant and see through waterblock. matches up with my silver wavemaster case.
speaking of waterblock. you'll all laught at me for this, but i still feel compelled with share it with you. so after i put in the kit i fired it up, i watched the temp idling at 37c, so i was like.. ok.. not too bad, so i loaded up F@H, and it instantly jumped to 53 and then fluctuate irratically btw that and 47. so i was like.... this can't be right, so i touched the tubes, and the blocks, and they were all ice cold. so i was like... something must not work right btw the contact of the cpu and block. then i thought to myself, humm.. i don't remember ever taking off that protective cover under the block surface, LOL.... so i opened up the case, and unscrewed the block... BOOM.... i can't believe my dumb ass didn't take that film off. :D :D... so that was it.... i fired it back up and idle 35c and load 41c.
i'll update you guys with pics later.
now i can finally hear what the people are saying when i watch movies without lisening to that high pitch smart fan II running full blast.
then i thought to myself, humm.. i don't remember ever taking off that protective cover under the block surface, LOL.... so i opened up the case, and unscrewed the block... BOOM.... i can't believe my dumb ass didn't take that film off.
RFLMAO!!! thanks for the laugh bro'. you had to be smacking your self around for a minute there. hey, congrats on getting everything up and running nicely. you just can't beat load temps that were your idle before:D keep up posted on how it all affects your overclocking adventures. or are you stopped at 2.59ghz? man i can't wait to get my stuff going. only less than a month to go. patience.......patience.......
i doubt my cpu can go any higher, true a nice 10 degree drop but, i think to go higher i prob need something extreme. but i'll give it a try this weekend. i am just glad to see those temp readings, haven't seen those numbers not even since the athlon XP days.
what voltage are you pushing to the cpu? i believe with water you can go as high as 1.7v's. as long as your keeping it under the standard 50C under full load. you probably won't see more than 45C under load the way things are looking unless the heat you cpu outputs scales badly with voltage. i'll probably go crazy and do a shiz samurai to the IHS when i finally get the water setup. still debating between the Swiftech and a pieced together Danger Den.
You could probably bump your CPU Vcore to 1.6, the watercooling heat dissipation performance will be able to contain the heat...... my A64 could go to 2.7Ghz, stable, but my RAM prevent me from going any further. If your RAM is good, it should be able to keep up with the CPU.......
*Lower your HTT multiplier to 3X, helps a lot when FSB>260*
it's already at 1.6V. it's been at 1.6V since the first day i got this chip and overclocked to its limit. my mobo is one of the older generations of the 9NDA3+, the later batches come with little extra voltage options while this one is stuck at 1.6.
the HTT is a good idea, i'll give that a try. i am sure my ballistix wont have a problem anywhere below 280mhz.
but before all that... i need to RMA my PNY 6800GT. it's F@ing up with scribblish snow effects that i can barely read what's in the bios. took me a while to convince those morons at PNY that it's their card. that was the original reason why i swaped out my PNY and put back in the winfast.
well good luck with the rma. also i'm kinda shocked that the ePox doesn't have a higher voltage option considering it's one of the top overclockers. is there a bios update or modded bios like for the dfi's that allow more voltage options? i mean with water you could do 1.7v's with no worries and definitely see the limits of your cpu.
either way i'm happy you finally got your water going good. you won't see mine for about a month. we can compare temps kinda but not really considering you have a 90nm cpu and mines a 130nm clawhammer.
i just read it on a forum that aparently if you put in a Venice or X2 on this board you'll have vcore option up to 1.7 compare to the 1.6 i have now. this makes sense, cause my work machine in the studio is the same board with venice core, and it has all the way up to 1.7v. i thought it was because this is a newer revision.
oh well.... no reason to go all the way out to buy another venice just to get another +.1 v. but i'll try lowering the HT multiplyer tho, apprently anything higher than 1000 HT will become unstable, and i do have it at 1032 at home.
ok!.... it's offical... my camera is stolen.
i thought i could pick up my camera at my friend's today only found out that it's not there anymore. i left it in his back seat for too long and i guess someone from the car wash must've stolen it when he got his ride washed.
so no pictures guys. sorry.
anyone selling a digital camera? it could be mine.
know anyone going to japan soon? friend of mine just came back after a week in tokyo and Osaka. picked up a real nice 8 megapixel for $400 about 3.5 inches across and 1.5 inches thick.
as nice of a camera as he has, i don't think i'll ever need a 8 mega pixel camera. it's just overkill. my photography days are over. i'd be happy with a 4 MP one.
the one i am looking at right now is the Canon Powershot SD300. i've always liked canon cameras. they're the best bang for the bucks. i owned a Professional grade Canon Rebel XSN back in college and then a powershot V2. they make some of the best lense for the money you pay. the powershot V2 is the one got stolen.
althou, i am not sure if i am willing to shell out another $230 right now for a camera that i know i wil barely use.
http://www.sonystyle.com/intershoproot/eCS/Store/en/imagesProducts/180x180/DSCT7.jpg
Sony Cybershot DSC-T7 (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=DSCT7&Dept=cameras&CategoryName=dcc_DIDigitalCameras_Cyber-shotDigitalCameras), incredibly thin, Carl Zeiss lens............... a perfect digital camera for non-professionals :D
i don't like SONY's lenses. no offense, they're great cameras and extremely compact and they're SONY. my friends have that camera, and it's great.. but just not as sharp as Canon's lense. not a pro, but happen to know a thing or two about cameras. SONY might make the best walkman in the world and some of the best innovation, but when it comes to photography, Canon, Lyca and Pentax make some of the best images in the world.
um...ever hear of nikon? they've been making some great cameras for decades. Lyca makes the best lens's in the business but man are they expensive. don't they use a cloth shutter system?
yeah..... left Nikon out in that one.
i don't know anything about Lyca, they use a completely photo standard. from exposure speed, to F-stop, to aim, to shoot, everything is different. photo professor back in college once told me you would have to relearn EVERYTHING again from the beginnging if you wanna shoot well with a lyca.
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