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Avid6eek
09-11-05, 11:44 PM
After about 8 hours of work, most of it spent cutting away at the case, I was able to get the Black Ice Extreme III installed in my Lian Li PC-767. It was alot of work, but it was worth it. Here are some pics...
http://hardware-geek.com/Pictures/Computer/767-07.jpg
http://hardware-geek.com/Pictures/Computer/767-08.jpg
http://hardware-geek.com/Pictures/Computer/767-09.jpg
http://hardware-geek.com/Pictures/Computer/767-10.jpg
http://hardware-geek.com/Pictures/Computer/767-11.jpg
dantheman
09-11-05, 11:57 PM
Very nice avi6eek! :D
You even painted the radiator to match the case. Can't wait to see what you put in it, but I doubt it will be of much surprise considering you.
Avid6eek
09-12-05, 12:12 AM
More than anything I would like it to have a Radeon X1800 XT, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen anytime soon.
NICE!!!!
Anyway, did you rely on passive ability of the radiator, or is there 3 120MM fans beneath those radiators?
And ugh, why is there kiddie toys all around the casing? Dont tell me you still playing those.......... :p
Avid6eek
09-12-05, 09:45 AM
There are 3 Panaflow 120mm fans mounted in the case that will have the ability to push 400cfm through the radiator. Of course they will be on fan controllers to run silent during normal use.
Shiz, you could mount another 120MM radiator at the back of the casing.......... for extra kick of extreme watercooling :D
And you still didnt answer why there's kiddie toys all around the casing........ :p
Avid6eek
09-12-05, 12:19 PM
Shiz, you could mount another 120MM radiator at the back of the casing.......... for extra kick of extreme watercooling :D I think the one radiator is big enough. I won't be doing anything that should generate so much heat that 4x120mm radiators would be needed. It looks like I'm going to slow down my building of this rig until there is some newer hardware available. I don't want to take the time to put everything together only to have to take it apart when ATI releases their new graphics cards. This system is pretty much on hold until then right now.
And you still didnt answer why there's kiddie toys all around the casing........ :p That room belongs to my neice. She spends the night at our house once each week so she got her own room/toys.
avid I have a question about the physics envalved here...
with all due respect, Isn't it a little over kill for water cooling? I mean don't get me wrong that is the best setup i've ever seen but... At best it will be at room temp right? so couldn't you have done it with less?
p.s. i've never cut a case before... what did you use? and what did you use to mont the radiator.
avid I have a question about the physics envalved here...
with all due respect, Isn't it a little over kill for water cooling? I mean don't get me wrong that is the best setup i've ever seen but... At best it will be at room temp right? so couldn't you have done it with less?
p.s. i've never cut a case before... what did you use? and what did you use to mont the radiator.
Remember, the important thing is to let the temperature remain as close as it can to the room temperatures during LOAD. Watercooling system, when you watercooled CPU and Graphic Card together will generate a lot of heat, its safe to say combination of both CPU and Graphic Card will dissipate around 180W of heat........ one 120 Aluminium Radiator is able to dissipate around 150W of heat...........
The importance of Heat dissipation during LOAD can be seen with CPU stress-benchmark such as Prime 95. HSF that arent able to keep the CPU cool during load will failed within the first 5-10 mins of the stress test :D
Plus, with many radiator, you just put those 120MM fans at their lowest speed............. plus, larger surface area dissipates heat more efficiently than smaller radiators. :D
Avid6eek
09-12-05, 04:06 PM
The radiator I used prior to this one was the Blace Ice Extreme II. It is basically the same radiator but for two 120mm fans instead of 3. With my FX-55 and 7800GTX at full load I could feel quite a bit of heating coming from the radiator. That would mean that the water is well over ambient temps. The larger radiator will help to cool those temps further to get the water closer to ambient.
I am unsure as to the exact hardware this sytem will have to cool. Either way I expect the load to be greater than anything I've done in the past.
The radiator is connected to the 3 120mm fans which are inside the case. There is a rubber gasket between the radiator and case, and the fans and the case. This will prevent vibrations from the fans from echoing through the case. All the HDs in the system will have rubber gaskets as well. Although I expect high performance from this system, it should be relatively quiet.
well shiz thats a nice setup. i'm guessing this case is a keeper? or you just gonna sell it for like 2x the price of the case + radiator later on?
anyway nice setup, should be silent enough to kill for. so whats your adress again? :p
very nice going so far shiz:D looks like your well on your way t building a supreme setup. i don't know if i'll be doing any cutting to my beloved cm stacker but now that i see yours it might be something to consider.
are you conserned with temps being higher than if you had maintained an outside rad? or are you more concerned with silence and it'll be noticably quieter with the fans on the inside of the case.
also what pump are you using with that? is it an AC model or DC?
Yeah, omga14, do you have pics of your PC casing? I wanted to see how big the casing was on the insides with all the component fitted............... :D
GNXtreme
09-13-05, 01:59 AM
Very nice Shiz...can I still call you that?...I really need to get my project up and running. It has been sitting toooo long. I just need a little time to finish it.
Omga14, you should check this out............ CM Stacker Mods (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=77697&highlight=stacker)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/MrBean_PM/Stacker%20Mod%20Photos/Top%20Lid%20Finish/Case_Rad_angle1.jpg
Avid6eek
09-13-05, 02:41 PM
well shiz thats a nice setup. i'm guessing this case is a keeper? Nah...this case is a keeper. I am very happy with how all the mods turned out, and the size/cooling in the case is absolutely perfect.
what pump are you using with that? is it an AC model or DC? I will be using the Danger Den DD12V-D5 DC pump in this setup. I've never used one before, but they reviews look pretty good. I've got the pump and am very impressed with how quiet it is. Another thing that I've done this time was pony up the extra couple dollars for Tygon tubing. I normally would buy tubing from a local hardware store, but its quality is no where near the quality offered by Tygon.
Very nice Shiz...can I still call you that?...I really need to get my project up and running. It has been sitting toooo long. I just need a little time to finish it. Of course you can call me Shiz...most people do. You haven't been around the forums very much lately. I'd like to see this project you are working on.
dude... where you get that radiator, it's huge!
in fact, the case is huge too. is it BTX?
and are the fans sucking down cold air or blowing out.
man i thought the dual 120mm radiator i am getting's enough, but THIS.
Avid6eek
09-13-05, 03:24 PM
The case is smaller than the Lian Li 70 series, but it is still pretty large. It's not BTX, but the upside-down ATX varient that some manufacturers are using. The fans are blowing up and out of the chassis. Because all the major components are water cooled, there won't really be any warm in in the chassis. The HDs and chipset doesn't really put enough heat into the air to make any difference.
i think you should have it suck down cold air, and utilize that rear 120mm fan and PSU fan to suck out the warm air, since like you said, the components don't really get that hot anyway, it wouldn't be too bad to add a degree or two to the case and lower your CPU and gpu temp even more.
Avid6eek
09-13-05, 05:15 PM
It is most efficient to suck air out the top of the case. Because the radiator is so big, I do not think pulling air down into the case will cool off temps any further.
Curses. Must you torture me when my PC is dead? Aww man, now I feel my triple-radiator setup is inferior.
Avid6eek
09-13-05, 06:19 PM
I may still add an additional 120mm radiator as Zefram mentioned, but it all depends on how the budget holds up. I spent all the money I had so I'm going to need to try and pick up some OT at work :)
yahooadam
09-13-05, 06:23 PM
godammit man, how do u make it look so good
That link zef posted waz also some excellent work
This stuff is off da hook :p
I want 1 :p
Omga14, you should check this out............ CM Stacker Mods (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=77697&highlight=stacker)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/MrBean_PM/Stacker%20Mod%20Photos/Top%20Lid%20Finish/Case_Rad_angle1.jpg
hey zef, i'll post some pics later of the case. thanks for that link. i'll definitely be checking that out:D
for shiz, keep up the good work and if you do wind up getting an additional triple rad where would you put it? plus if you do i don't think your temps would ever budge more than 2C:D that is unless you start putting some serious volts through that cpu. your getting me into thinking of modding:D that link for the cm stacker mod looks real nice and gives me some ideas. hell, i might just copy the guy and put a sticker mentioning the dude. *edit* after reading the whole thread i WILL NOT be copying that dude. the amount of modding involved in that guys project is way beyond anything i'm capable of financially and skill wise.
like was mentioned before that dude has some excellent quality and your's is surely up to par. good work my man:D
Avid6eek
09-14-05, 10:26 AM
I wasn't going to add another triple rad, I was going to add a single rad to the 120mm fan mount at the back of the case. I have an extra Extreme II radiator from my last water cooling setup, but I can't find a way to mount it. If I did add another rad, I'd probably add another pump just to keep the water flowing quickly.
oh, ok. i was going to say do a mount like the swiftech h20-apex but it appears your rear 120mm is to low for an extreme II to fit properly.
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