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So how about this thing!! i just got this case today from a guy i know and it only costed me one crappy keyboard. it is an old lian-li server case and is just a MONSTER. the rear was ment to hold 2 hot swappable PSU. case would weigh like 300lbs w/ all that in there :skel:
another sweet thing is i also got the 2 fan controllers as well, they are actually pretty nice hopefully.
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9286/frontshothn8.jpg
little size compairison, B I G
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2013/casevscatzg2.jpg
so this little area is under the HD cage and i was thinkin, bust a few holes in through the aluminum plate (where the little rainbow cable is running in) and i can lay dual swiftech pumps down there. :thumb: :)
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2479/futurepumphomehj5.jpg
lots of cutting/shaving will need to be done on the fan holes, they are WAY too thick. how about the awsome stack of 20mm fans lol ??
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3061/backshotpj9.jpg
needless to say i am ultra pumped about this MONSTER of a case and cant wait to start buying my h20 bits n pieces. suggestions are more then welcome
jdrom17
08-23-07, 12:51 AM
Sounds like your gonna have some fun. Whats that 3rd 3.5" thing? Looks like switches or something.
Could probably fit a triple or quad 120mm rad on-top of the PSU there.
Keep us posted...maybe do a build log?
Oh and make sure your cat help too much ;)
Is that you in the second pic? Haha.... juuust kidding :p
Sounds like your gonna have some fun. Whats that 3rd 3.5" thing? Looks like switches or something.
Could probably fit a triple or quad 120mm rad on-top of the PSU there.
Keep us posted...maybe do a build log?
Oh and make sure your cat help too much ;)
yea i have been eyeing up some of the trip rads, i just have to start measuring. Those are 2 switches in the front that were controlling UV lights. i think im gonna put hydros on this case and use those to control the bounce lol
Is that you in the second pic? Haha.... juuust kidding :p
yea, i put on extra weight and hair for this up coming winter lol
Avid6eek
08-23-07, 12:13 PM
Nice case...could use a slight dusting though.
Are you going to put the cat in the case?
That cat looks huge!!!!
lol, thats what everyone says. she is in general a really small cat, so her being chubby shows even more. she is still a delicate flower lol. i have another flame point siamese, he is really long and thin and they are both happy because they HAVE THIER CLAWS ;)
Are you going to put the cat in the case?
i think i am going to actually make this PC cat powered.
hah
ok but seriously, i dont even know where to start with this thing. i just keep stairing at it lol. lets hear some ideas. i mean i know i can totally put a triple rad on top, but i would rather have 2 seperate loops. it doesnt really show in the picture but i have a TON of room above the PSU also OR i can turn it upside down and have TON of room under it.
Only a keyboard for that?! Jeez I wish I was as lucky as you. That case looks great. Does it have a removable motherboard tray? Are you thinking about moding it in any way or are you still figuring out what to do with it.
Grats on the nice case man.
Congratulations on, well, getting the casing :D
For a keyboard, hot damn, a lian li casing?
And yes, the cat does look huge. In fact, if the cat is in my country there's no doubt that it'll become the queen of cats. What do you fed it with? Steaks? ;)
Only a keyboard for that?! Jeez I wish I was as lucky as you. That case looks great. Does it have a removable motherboard tray? Are you thinking about moding it in any way or are you still figuring out what to do with it.
Grats on the nice case man.
Yea, he is one of those guys that buys tons of nice stuff but doenst even know how to use it or what to do with it. like how he just went out and bought a brand new Xbox360 Elite (black one) because he just misplaced his other xbox360s HD. must be nice
the MOBO tray isnt removable i dont believe but that is ok seeing as all the room that is in there. there is also a decent amount of room behind the mobo so that is nice.
YOU BET YOUR A$$ i am going to mod this thing. i want to put in maybe 2 seperate cooling loops. i was stairing at it for a while last night trying to figure out what i can do n how to do it. i was also online for a long time looking at different resivours and things of that nature. any suggestions?
Congratulations on, well, getting the casing :D
For a keyboard, hot damn, a lian li casing?
And yes, the cat does look huge. In fact, if the cat is in my country there's no doubt that it'll become the queen of cats. What do you fed it with? Steaks? ;)
or she would get turned into a steak hahaha jk
like i said she is actually really small, just small and fat. i feed her a TINY bit of food too and she still gets fatter, i dont get it.
i didnt think a little puss would get so much attention, then again it DOES move mountains lol ;)
FrozenMercury
08-24-07, 12:45 PM
That is a sweet case. Which keyboard did you trade for it? And what lotto tickets are those?
dog2525
08-24-07, 02:17 PM
easy with the cat, my cousin's ran away for a day or so, by next month she tripled in size, and in babies. lol
That is a sweet case. Which keyboard did you trade for it? And what lotto tickets are those?
dide it was a super crappy old school keyboad, like 20$ lol
those are just a cpl of scratch offs i havent done yet.
WHERE ARE THE SUGGESTIONS/IDEAS PPL??
ok so i was thinking about having the second water loop cool the SPP and CPU. would that be too much heat for this radiator to cool?
http://www.xoxide.com/thermaltake-aqua-tmg1-radiator.html
also these are the parts im prob gonna order, any suggestions PLEASE
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2021/ex-blc-231/Danger_Den_TDX_775_Copper_Water_Block_Intel_775.ht ml
http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=258
http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=202-F1-MB01-01&family=99
any good CPU waterblock with a clear top is outta stock everywhere. without paying an arm n leg that is
cfairchild
08-26-07, 11:01 PM
I think you could do better on the rad choice. that TT rad is only a 1x120mm and it almost $60.
Unless there is a reason your getting those quick connectors I'd go with something like this: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=prod_info&cPath=200&products_id=3984
I didn't read through the whole thread, but, what's the setup going to have in it?
I think you could do better on the rad choice. that TT rad is only a 1x120mm and it almost $60.
Unless there is a reason your getting those quick connectors I'd go with something like this: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=prod_info&cPath=200&products_id=3984
I didn't read through the whole thread, but, what's the setup going to have in it?
everything in my siggy will be the platform.
well see that is the thing, i already have 2 of those tt rads. so i wanted to just reuse them
keep the input coming please
jdrom17
08-27-07, 12:08 AM
I'd say buy the Swiftech MCR220/320 (depends on your space). Mount it in the top of the case.
Maybe put one of the Tt rads to the back where the dual-80mm fans are and run a dual-rad setup.
I don't know, Tt water cooling stuff doesn't seem to be recommended much anywhere.
Since your going for CPU, Chipset, GPU cooling, I doubt two of those ThermalTake rads would be enough.
If you ran a Swiftech MCR220, plus mounted the Tt rad somewhere, that would probably do quite nicely. But like I said, I don't know. Never had watercooling myself, just from stuff I've read.
Oh, and why do you want a clear-top block? Aren't those usually worse/break sooner? That DD block, as Avid found out, doesn't work so well on quads, so why buy something you won't be able to use in the near-future?
Maybe even just pickup this: http://www.petrastechshop.com/pecoel.html Just add in your 680i block. However its currently only sold with the 3x120mm rad.
I'd say buy the Swiftech MCR220/320 (depends on your space). Mount it in the top of the case.
Maybe put one of the Tt rads to the back where the dual-80mm fans are and run a dual-rad setup.
I don't know, Tt water cooling stuff doesn't seem to be recommended much anywhere.
Since your going for CPU, Chipset, GPU cooling, I doubt two of those ThermalTake rads would be enough.
If you ran a Swiftech MCR220, plus mounted the Tt rad somewhere, that would probably do quite nicely. But like I said, I don't know. Never had watercooling myself, just from stuff I've read.
Oh, and why do you want a clear-top block? Aren't those usually worse/break sooner? That DD block, as Avid found out, doesn't work so well on quads, so why buy something you won't be able to use in the near-future?
Maybe even just pickup this: http://www.petrastechshop.com/pecoel.html Just add in your 680i block. However its currently only sold with the 3x120mm rad.
yikes, im not about to pay 300$ just to cool a CPU n SPP lol
like i said, i want to have 2 seperate loops, one GPU only the other CPU and SPP. i fiinally found my cam so i will be posting pics soon
jdrom17
08-27-07, 04:11 PM
You already have the GPU loop though don't you? If I remember right...
Anyways, a single rad isn't going to be much for the CPU and NB. Air cooling would probably do better... I think you'd need at least a dual-120mm rad. Especially if you get a quad-core at some point.
If you must go for cheap, maybe this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835108075 plus your 680i block.
You already have the GPU loop though don't you? If I remember right...
Anyways, a single rad isn't going to be much for the CPU and NB. Air cooling would probably do better... I think you'd need at least a dual-120mm rad. Especially if you get a quad-core at some point.
If you must go for cheap, maybe this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835108075 plus your 680i block.
ok so i ordered one of these today and i was totally thinking about getting that kit u just posted jd. it was actually just in my 'cart' and i was gonna use that rad. so i would have 2 seperate rads. for my CPU/SPP and 1 for my GPU
here is where i am going to mount the pumps, i just punched out to sections of that aluminum plate and grommeted it. it actually worked out really well the 2 pumps should fit right in there.
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/5734/dscn2125bg9.jpg
By qbical (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/qbical), shot with E4600 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=E4600&make=NIKON) at 2007-08-27
this is kind of a loose mock up. there will be 2 hoses coming out of each hole. i also already have 2 swiftech micro res's and i think i am going to maybe either mount them way at the top of the case (fill port) or right behind the 3 1/2" bay facing/pointing towards the rear of the case
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1592/dscn2126yo0.jpg
By qbical (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/qbical), shot with E4600 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=E4600&make=NIKON) at 2007-08-27
ok so this is what i ordered
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2021/ex-blc-231/Danger_Den_TDX_775_Copper_Water_Block_Intel_775.ht ml?tl=g30c85s140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16835108079
i was also thinking about getting this little guy or maybe the double
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2152/ex-rad-30/Danger_Den_Black_Ice_Micro_80mm_Radiator_Black_w_C ustomizable_Fittings.html?tl=g30c95
*EDIT* jd thanks for your input so far and i fixed that link. 200 looks at this thread and half are about the cat, pretty lame if u ask me. i was thinking of just saving myself the 10$ and getting this block
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835108093
my buddy has a full paint shop in his garage and i was thinkin about painting both the waterblocks, but there isnt really much surface area to paint so......... i kind of like the look of that DD block and it is a great performer. i just dont know which to get :( :(
jdrom17
08-27-07, 10:53 PM
First link is just a general page...
The radiator best position is to be mounted either at the back or top of the casing where the airflow cycle ends when it passes through the radiators.
The reason behind this is that by putting your radiator on the front of the case (at the 5 1/2 or 3 inch tray area), you're actually dumping the heat back into your casing. This would be bad as areas like motherboard PWM and MOSFETS would be heated up significantly.
Traditionally the PWM and MOSFETS rely on air from the CPU heatsink to cool them down. With watercooling, you dont have fan blowing to them, thus you need cool airflow to do the job.
Plus, i'd hate noise, and by locating your Radiator on the exhaust port of your casing, a fan there would become both the exhaust fan and cooling fan for the radiator. Thus, you dont need that much fan and that means lower noise.
Owh, and if possible get bigger fan - they push more air at relatively low noise compared to smaller fans. ;)
Hope that rambling helps :p
jdrom17
08-28-07, 09:05 AM
I think the Apogee GT would probably perform better than the DD TDX anyways.
Since it looks like all the fan ports in your case are mainly dual-80mm, why not get a dual-80mm rad? Don't really see the point in 1. You could mount it in the top above the power supply or in the back behind the motherboard.
I guess your pumps are pretty skinny to fit under that HDD cage?
And I agree with Zef, mount that rad in the top or back. It'll require some cutting, but probably give much better results. Thats like sticking a heater in front of your case...
I guess your pumps are pretty skinny to fit under that HDD cage?
After reading that i just realised that Qbical would put the pump beneath the HDD CAGE.
That would be a bad idea. Waterpumps would generated a lot of EMI, and its high-magnetic property would spell doom for your harddrives.
This is the reason why i decided to go with building a seperate case for my watercooling system, to place the pumps separately from the other electronics (mobo, HDD).
If you still insist on putting the pumps there, a extra conducting material like sheets of aluminium or steel would help in reducing the EMI effect............
After reading that i just realised that Qbical would put the pump beneath the HDD CAGE.
That would be a bad idea. Waterpumps would generated a lot of EMI, and its high-magnetic property would spell doom for your harddrives.
This is the reason why i decided to go with building a seperate case for my watercooling system, to place the pumps separately from the other electronics (mobo, HDD).
If you still insist on putting the pumps there, a extra conducting material like sheets of aluminium or steel would help in reducing the EMI effect............
good point my friend, i was more concerned about how the vibrations would affect my HDDs. i mean, isnt the pump housing enough insulation? when i read the specs on the pump i dont see anything about any kind of EMI production.
in the case i just took apart w/my water cooled video card i actually mounted the pump on the cage that housed my HDDs and all was good.
was set-up like this PUMP(cage wall)HDD
the pump and the HDD was even sharing the same screw lol
i do appreciate your point though and im going to look into it for sure. now if u can tell me where to find a cheap dbl rad that would b great
jdrom17
08-30-07, 12:00 AM
Double 120mm rads are only like $50 here in Canada...
I consider that quite cheap, but maybe you don't. The Swiftech MCR220 (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=20089&vpn=MCR220-QP-K&manufacture=Swiftech) (CAD link) is probably the cheapest one that is of decent quality that you'll find. There is apparently a new one coming out soon with an integrated reservoir in it for about $15 more it seems. If that would fit your setup better, maybe you should wait out for it.
I don't know about all this EMI stuff, it seems people stick their pumps wherever it fits best. Never really seen any discussion about the interference. But I guess you can never be too safe.
can tell me where to find a cheap dbl rad that would b great
Cheap and good stuff is my speciality :eek:
Anyway i got this 140X280MM Radiator for cheap (around US$7.80), you can read about it HERE (http://forum.pcstats.com/showthread.php?t=38307)
If you got the time try looking for the radiator in car shop, or any air-conditioner shop. Some modification are required, such as fitting the pipes, sealing it using strong non-corrosive silicone glue and making sure you got the waterflow sorted out................
man i should have just kept some old crappy keyboards around instead of paying 200 some dollars a few years ago for that case :p lol
that is a very nice case and because of the size it gives you plenty of water cooling options. here is what I would do though.
I woul mount your water pumps above the psu. and remove that lower 3.5 drive cage. that are would be more then enough room to actually just go out and buy a transmission cooler or something similar from an autoparts store.
you can go much more custom with this system just because of the size of the case. which means you are not limited to rads that are "built for computers" you could even take sever transmission coolers and put them together to make one just because they are normally only about an inch thick.
man i should have just kept some old crappy keyboards around instead of paying 200 some dollars a few years ago for that case :p lol
that is a very nice case and because of the size it gives you plenty of water cooling options. here is what I would do though.
I woul mount your water pumps above the psu. and remove that lower 3.5 drive cage. that are would be more then enough room to actually just go out and buy a transmission cooler or something similar from an autoparts store.
you can go much more custom with this system just because of the size of the case. which means you are not limited to rads that are "built for computers" you could even take sever transmission coolers and put them together to make one just because they are normally only about an inch thick.
well i was kind of hoping to have everything done by this sunday and i have been looking at the car rad. options and it seems most are made out of alum. and i need all copper. i really dont want to drag this out for weeks and weeks because then that means no pc and that just sucks lol
thanks for the input so far and i am going to post some pics tonight
an aluminum radiator will cool just as good as a copper one. .. atleast for something like this. ... you can only pull so much heat from something without using some kind of refridgeration.
besides ... dont you have a system running now? lol .. you can leave a your system in the old case for a while until you get everything done in the new case. ... not saying you have to do this ... but if you wanted to go with a custom setup this is how i would go about doing it.
an aluminum radiator will cool just as good as a copper one. .. atleast for something like this. ... you can only pull so much heat from something without using some kind of refridgeration.
besides ... dont you have a system running now? lol .. you can leave a your system in the old case for a while until you get everything done in the new case. ... not saying you have to do this ... but if you wanted to go with a custom setup this is how i would go about doing it.
i just didnt want aluminum because all my other stuff is copper and i dont want to corrode any of my new parts. this is what i just orded to finalize my build for the weekend. although that rad. is a monster, i will either retake some pics tonight or tomorrow when i get all my stuff. i hope the red fluid looks good, i wanted that one to be running through my CPU n SPP. kind of like blood to the brain and then the blue stuff to my GPU. may as well make a fricking rainbow in there lol
http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=263&cat=0&page=1
http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=221&cat=86&page=1
jdrom17
08-30-07, 10:06 PM
Tell me how that rad works out for ya. I was thinking about getting that or the Swiftech one.
Good luck :)
i need to stop looking at this thread ... its making me want to setup my lian li case with water cooling lol.
i need to stop looking at this thread ... its making me want to setup my lian li case with water cooling lol.
correction, u need to keep looking at this thread and posting so u can get ideas and so can i. i FINALLY got all my stuff today and i am pretty pumped. i have a feeling i am gonna be out drinkin all night though from the sounds of it so i guess all that will have to wait till tomorrow. ok so i swear to god i will post pics soon lol
stlouis1
08-31-07, 06:30 PM
you could always go toa junkyard and pull a transmission oil cooler off an older ford truck or something....i've got a couple laying around. heater cores would make good rads too
correction, u need to keep looking at this thread and posting so u can get ideas and so can i. i FINALLY got all my stuff today and i am pretty pumped. i have a feeling i am gonna be out drinkin all night though from the sounds of it so i guess all that will have to wait till tomorrow. ok so i swear to god i will post pics soon lol
or you could put your skills to the test and put the system together while getting drunk :D lol
i have actually always wanted to try an inline chiller type unit with tec's ... its a bit old school considering that there are phase change units out there. but i always thought it would be pretty cool to do.
FrozenMercury
09-01-07, 01:20 PM
New thread idea Joe! Drunken Modder's Corner. I'd pay to see it
stlouis1
09-01-07, 05:40 PM
i've put systems together drunk, none with any special mods or watercooling though. but i've built full systems after packing down a full 6er
yahooadam
09-01-07, 06:52 PM
nice man, for a keyboard, i hate you :)
looks interesting so far :D
i've put systems together drunk, none with any special mods or watercooling though. but i've built full systems after packing down a full 6er
try that after a couple of 40's worth of ole "E" ;) ... w0rd!! :D :50:
FrozenMercury
09-02-07, 12:29 AM
i've put systems together drunk, none with any special mods or watercooling though. but i've built full systems after packing down a full 6er
I'd be more impressed if you said 26'er.
or you could put your skills to the test and put the system together while getting drunk :D lol
i have actually always wanted to try an inline chiller type unit with tec's ... its a bit old school considering that there are phase change units out there. but i always thought it would be pretty cool to do.
man i wont lie about it, the night before i did most of the work i got wasted SO.....that was fine for me
nice man, for a keyboard, i hate you :)
believe me i never get that lucky, i like it more that he was that ultra noob lol
I'd be more impressed if you said 26'er.
lol almost the same thing i said, pish posh on the sixer
ok so i did some work and here are a few pics, thanks for all the posts so far.
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/2489/cputhermalpastevy4.jpg
i am a little worried because all i had was this ****T% part silver thermal compound to work with and it did not spread well at ALL. i really hope it at least performs semi decent.
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9720/pumpsleaninuv5.jpg
cutting these out were buy far the most difficult.
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/5932/pumppicsfulljy0.jpg
the pumps almost fully done with the fluids. the one with the red fluid is the HOT one.
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/4657/insidesideshotjj2.jpg
i think this one pretty much shows the jist of everything thus far. i punched out a few holes (keeping the swiss cheese theme) above the PSU so u can see into the upper res. i am also going to tap out a hole ontop of the case so that RES. will have its own fill port. everything (knock on wood) seems to be ok so far. my real concern now is the fact that my pump alone is running at like 95F degrees. now that i put a fan on the dual 120res the temps are better, i am still not to happy about that one, what good is 94F fluid going onto the CPU? we shall see
this may be a stupid question ... but what is that little blue thing at the bottom left of the case in the last picture? sitting half way on the chipotle bag.
either way ... its looking great! ... making me jelous here :D have you found any kind of gromets for the holes you are cutting out? like auto trim or something similar?
jdrom17
09-03-07, 08:20 AM
Looks like some sort of 90 degree fitting.
Very colorful setup you got going there ;)
Need some pics of the top where the rads are I'm assuming.
yahooadam
09-03-07, 10:48 AM
its a flow meter :)
Nice job so far man :D
this may be a stupid question ... but what is that little blue thing at the bottom left of the case in the last picture? sitting half way on the chipotle bag.
either way ... its looking great! ... making me jelous here :D have you found any kind of gromets for the holes you are cutting out? like auto trim or something similar?
it is actually a little flow meter. i found a little grommiting material, but i smoothed out all my holes so there are no jagged edges
i have a pic of the top already taken, i just am at my max for posting on imageshack.
yahooadam
09-03-07, 11:15 AM
imagashack has a limit ?
jdrom17
09-03-07, 11:58 AM
Use another host?
Just don't upload them under your account, then you can never run out...
yeeeeea, i forgot about just posting it not under my account lol. here is the top, i think i am going to have my buddy paint a black stripe down the center. i still need to get a few fan grills and such as well. it makes me SOOOO happy when the only thing that is holding me up on actually trying to boot this thing is a $6 fricking fan THAT i ordered LAST MONDAY. the EVGA guy didnt even give a crap that they gave me a wrong sales order number/tracking info and waited an extra day to send it out. man im so pissed off about that, DEF. put a damper on the build.
i am hoping to put in a little fill hole ontop right next to the rear RAD. i could technically make another fill port next to the TT RAD. i am going to try and do a little cabling right now, but i am not even going to bother putting in the RAM. i need all the room i can get when i install that fan
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4813/topab8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
jdrom17
09-03-07, 09:06 PM
Couldn't you place dual-fill ports in the space between the rads there? Definitely paint a black stripe or whatever, doesn't look too great as is. Perhaps get black fan grills too? Or one of those snazzy rad grills from AC Ryan.
Couldn't you place dual-fill ports in the space between the rads there? Definitely paint a black stripe or whatever, doesn't look too great as is. Perhaps get black fan grills too? Or one of those snazzy rad grills from AC Ryan.
i was looking at putting them both in the middle but i dont know if the GPU fill line can make that bend. i also agree about how shi&&y the top looks although it took FOREVER to cut everything. i still have a hand full of loose ends to tie up. i will post pics
ok so i put everything back together and my worst fears have come true lol
all my temps have pretty much gone UP or are the exact same. even in the bios they were a few degrees warmer then before this undertaking. i had a feeling this would happen but now it is true. it is however hotter then $hi* in my place so im sure that doesnt help much but still. i dont think i am even going to attempt playing a game
sigh back to square one starting with the thermal paste for sure
jdrom17
09-04-07, 09:59 PM
Is that FluidXP stuff? Maybe try some distilled water?
The water can't really be colder than ambient (unless you use a chiller or something), so if its hotter than usual in your place your temps will go up.
keep in mind that any thermal paste requires a break in period before it starts working at 100%. .. so your temps should drop a few degrees in about a weeks time.
even better, i was sitting here just clicking around, runnin a few small tests just to ease into the temps., i was also recording some music and had a few web pages open. so i decided to put my hand very slowly into the case just to see if i could feel any air coming across my fingers at all and one just barely touched a ram stick and i herd this noise; i cannot describe it, not like a frying but kind of like a click. well then my desktop just froze hard and the music kept looping. i shut it down and when i tried to reboot it it halted right after the mem test. i totally forgot to write it down but it was like E64 something.....
from the mobo code it said check all mem above or whatever so i figured for sure it was one of the ram chips. i rebooted, waited 3 mins, stood on one leg and still just kept halting about 2sec into the boot seq.
so i finally took it apart, moved the ram to the other slots (inspected and smelt and all seemed totally fine) i also took the side panels off and it finally booted and now i am here moaning about it. i am ready to throw all this stuff out my door and never look back. u know, i am just pissed because i have a small place and every day i dont have a good running PC is just another day that i have PC $HI^ EVERYWHERE. It has been like this since last thursday and its getting old at this point. besides what am i supposed to say to my girl "hey love welcome to my place, just go ahead and move those mobos and fans if u want to sit" let me tell ya i bet chicks would LOVE to hear that stuff. lol
i would say in all realsim i am prob. just gonna have to tear it totally apart again and redo all the paste. :( :(
o btw my temps are CPU idle 40C<>System 41C<>GPU1 51C
so not cool
are you running your water pumps on a seperate power supply? ... you could be having a power issue here.
yahooadam
09-05-07, 01:03 PM
sounds like you gave the ram a nice case of static shock
jdrom17
09-05-07, 04:14 PM
Your temps are like mine with high room temp (28C or so).
My CPU is actually at 3.2GHz (8x400), so I'm even clocked higher with the same temps. Nice 35C right now seeing as my room temp is about 23C.
It does sound like you shocked your RAM with some static buildup inside you.
Best of luck figuring your your temp problems.
sounds like you gave the ram a nice case of static shock
yea but i didnt feel any kind of shock nor did i see anything. i also have wood floors and didnt have any socks on so i wouldnt think i threw a charge at them. i have both pumps on my 1 PSU, but i dont have tons of stuff so i think my PSU can handle it plenty. all my temps are with everything stock so that makes it worse. i was however playing bioshock last night and everything seemed totally fine and i think my temps went up only a few degrees, but still. i really think most of the problem is on the thermal paste side.
yea but i didnt feel any kind of shock nor did i see anything. i also have wood floors and didnt have any socks on so i wouldnt think i threw a charge at them.
The PC is pretty much grounded (British Standard, i dont know about U.S Electical plugs), and by you could have static buildups by wind blowing onto you (air friction creates static)
And by touching the RAM you could probably throw the static charge at the RAM.
And from your previous post i could safely assume that you did not grounded yourself by touching the case. Normally we would touch the casing to neutralize any static charges.
Either that or the PC mysteriously gone haywire as you try to finger'ed it.
Pretty much what a chick would do to a guy who dont clean their finger before any finger'ing activities. Or ground themselves :p
now that i think about it i believe i was holding the top part of the case so i didnt accidently tip the monster over. anyways, i have been using the PC and after running some tests and gaming a bit i would say that i have 2 main problems.
1. i believe the thermal compound i used is total garbage. Like i said when i was trying to apply it, it was clumping up and just a real pain in the @&&.
2. the temp in my place has to be 77-80F. like i said before my AC is the worst ever so i think that is also not helping at all. i also live on the third floor AND the sun blasts through my main doors pretty much from 7am-7pm
i have never wanted winter so bad lol
*EDIT UPDATE*
ok so i OC my CPU to about 2.9ghz and the temp went up like 1degree so that is nice BUT when i was just playing BIOSHOCK my PC totally froze up again hard just like the other day wth the ram. i looked in the BIOS after a reboot because i thought for sure it was maybe the CPU or something and my MCP was at like 133F SO.......i would say that is a problem
i had a log going when i was playing Bioshock and my max cpu temp is 47C and the SYS maxed at 44C so this is not TOO TOO bad, but not that good
jdrom17
09-06-07, 09:57 PM
Is your SB still naked? Or did you get that fan from eVGA? Could be the issue right there.
i got the fan from evga finally and i installed it (the only props i will give them is that installation was WAY easy) and am shooting the chip/fan with my temp gun AND shooting behind the mobo where the chip would sit (would be making a natural hotspot at that point) and it only reads like 104 tops so i dont know what the hell is going on
i still think my temps should be at least a few degrees lower so i am still thinking of doing a full repaste on the CPU SPP and MCP
thanks for keeping the input going JD
1. i believe the thermal compound i used is total garbage. Like i said when i was trying to apply it, it was clumping up and just a real pain in the @&&.
From the picture, i could see that there is not enough pressure exerted on the CPU to make the paste evenly spread out. You could see the Thermal Paste lining up in the center of your CPU........... that is not a good :p
2. the temp in my place has to be 77-80F. like i said before my AC is the worst ever so i think that is also not helping at all. i also live on the third floor AND the sun blasts through my main doors pretty much from 7am-7pm
i have never wanted winter so bad lol
Dont whine, 80F (about 27 degrees celcius) is cold. My country averages at 34 Degrees Celcius (about 93F) and even at that my CPU idles at 36-37 degrees and wouldn't go over 50 degrees on loads. And my CPU is overclocked to 3.4Ghz, mind you ;)
With patience you will sort out the problem, for now, i think there's problem with the CPU waterblock mounting, as it does not apply enough pressure. That means lower thermal conductivity and thus, higher temperature :p
jdrom17
09-07-07, 04:55 PM
I have no clue what kind of junk thermal paste that is. I was wondering when I first saw the pictures... Why is there a line down the center of the CPU and then the hole block is covered? Seeing that its like perfect, I assume it was pre-applied or something? Unless you like taped it off...
Regardless, put a stripe of AS5 down the middle of the CPU (as per Arctic Silver's intstructions) and then screw down the block tightly (in a diagonal pattern of course).
If all your other blocks/heatsinks have that crappy paste on them, clean those all up too.
I use Ceramique on my NB and SB as it's non-conductive just instead some of it squishes out onto other components. I thought Swiftech blocks came with this anyways?
That seems to be about the only other thing left to do...
From the picture, i could see that there is not enough pressure exerted on the CPU to make the paste evenly spread out. You could see the Thermal Paste lining up in the center of your CPU........... that is not a good :p
Dont whine, 80F (about 27 degrees celcius) is cold. My country averages at 34 Degrees Celcius (about 93F) and even at that my CPU idles at 36-37 degrees and wouldn't go over 50 degrees on loads. And my CPU is overclocked to 3.4Ghz, mind you ;)
With patience you will sort out the problem, for now, i think there's problem with the CPU waterblock mounting, as it does not apply enough pressure. That means lower thermal conductivity and thus, higher temperature :p
wow u must be able to see into the future AND have xray vision. aparently u can see that there isnt enough pressure on the CPU when the block hasnt even been installed simply AMAZING
1. im not whining i was just informing.
2. i dont give a damn about the temps in your country
3. your totally wrong about the CPU waterblock mounting.
I have no clue what kind of junk thermal paste that is. I was wondering when I first saw the pictures... Why is there a line down the center of the CPU and then the hole block is covered? Seeing that its like perfect, I assume it was pre-applied or something? Unless you like taped it off...
Regardless, put a stripe of AS5 down the middle of the CPU (as per Arctic Silver's intstructions) and then screw down the block tightly (in a diagonal pattern of course).
If all your other blocks/heatsinks have that crappy paste on them, clean those all up too.
I use Ceramique on my NB and SB as it's non-conductive just instead some of it squishes out onto other components. I thought Swiftech blocks came with this anyways?
That seems to be about the only other thing left to do...
yea that paste i had was this stuff that was 10% silver i had laying around my place FOREVER. The swiftech blocks came with little tubes of paste, but i just used the silver stuff on everything. i also taped off the CPU and Block then toothpicked off any clumps. i thought u have to also put a layer of paste on the block as well as the stripe on the CPU. that silver stuff WOULD NOT leave a 'glaze' and was impossible to try and spread thin
now that the temps here have dropped i have a CPU temp of 39C MCP of 40C. for some reason though my GPU temps have gone up a bit. i just need another set of hands for when i need to reapply everything, anyone in chicago?
jdrom17
09-16-07, 10:27 PM
Just wondering how things are going...haven't posted any updates in a while.
Anyways that silver stuff sounds nasty. It probably barely even bonded anything. Sounds like it was totally dried up.
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