Down to DFI and closing

[Comixion]

Ok, this is the last thread of me worry warting yall for help on a mobo........maybe.

So heres my last question/s.

As you can see Newegg does not have the X48 board I thought of getting.
Question is, is it wise to spend the extra $$ on an X48 based board than an X38?

Also...why is the P35 , which is not PCIe 2.0, priced higher than the X38 in the comparison chart?

No more sweating over this mess now. I'm ordering in the morning.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010200280%2050001307&bop=And&CompareItemList=N82E16813136045%2CN82E16813136037% 2CN82E16813136046

[owen]

Well, ive never used DFI but why did you opt out of the Asus one?

[Comixion]

To be honest..I'm still open for suggestions.

I'm just trying to hurry up before tomorrow when I have to make my order so I can get it, along with my 8800GTS before the weekend.

I have $600 to spend on both the graphics card and Mobo and was looking at the X38's and X48's. But there is a big price jump not only from the x38-x48 but not that much from the P35 to X38. I would like to be more future proof and grab a PCIe 2.0 if its necessary.

[phill9800]

I had a Gigabyte P35 DS4 and it was a good solid overclocker. It was better than my Abit AW9D-max but only with handling higher memory clocks. The bios gave more voltage options which is great for overclocking :)
Personally, I think the X38 would be a good bet but what are you wanting from the board? Are you wanting to go Crossfire or just have a board that will last? If memory serves me right, the X48's are very expensive (not as much as the 790i's I dont think) and I think some take DDR2 and DDR3..

If you read a few of the reviews for the X38's and so on, maybe then that will help you decide on what you want to do :)

I'd go for the GTS myself if I didnt have a GT as the performance increase isnt the biggest between the two and if you get a good GT, you can get very close the GTS's performance :)

[Comixion]

What I want is whats best for Nvidia cards.
I'm also using DDR2, so it has to be compatible with DDR2.

[phill9800]

Sorry I misread or misunderstood what you where after.

I'd guess the X38's are better, but the X48's are meant to be a bit better again at overclocking so it depends on cost.. :)

I'd go gigabyte or Asus by just thinking of some names... I havent heard any other manufactures making outstanding products that i know of...

[Comixion]

Overkill and unecessary?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131284

Make more $$ sense?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131219

[-=CrAnSwIcK=-]

the Lanparty LT and UT edition is always more expensive...whether it be x38 or P35...

i don't know what each mobo has over the other but i know price wise from left to right (lowest to highest) it goes

DK - LT - UT...

the P35 DK is a lot cheaper than the x38 DK...But if you want PCI-e 2.0 for future proofing, then get the Lanparty DK x38...the LT and UT models have dual LAN, i dunno how dual LAN works, or what advantages it holds, and the UT doesn't have onboard audio...honestly for the average user, i think the best option would the the DK x38....or P35 if you want to save money...

[Comixion]

Yea, I was kinda leaning to the DK x38

[AlphaChicken]

no. if you are only planning on running one graphics card, then you should focus on FSB overclocking capabilities of the motherboard.

If you are getting DFi I hope that you plan on overclocking, as that is what they are built for...ultimate tweaking.

So. Get the P35 if you are only running one card. The only point of the X38 is if you are running X-fire because it adds in the extra PCI-e x16 slot and does not support SLi. Since you are running one card this is completely unneccessary.

The p35 has the best FBS overclock capas out of all those you posted.

:)

[phill9800]

Have you read any of the group tests that Anandtech or X-labs does?? They would probably help you :)

[-=CrAnSwIcK=-]

it also supports PCI-e 2.0...as it stands his GTS won't use all the bandwidth, but for future upgrades at least he's got it...who knows maybe next gen graphics cards will be bandwidth hogs...it's really up to him though...i tried to get him to buy the DK P35 last week but he wasn't having it...

[Comixion]

hmmm...so why such a price difference in these 2?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010200280%2050001307%20107172277&bop=And&CompareItemList=N82E16813136039%2CN82E16813136037

[jdrom17]

Here's the deal. The X38 is the X48. The X48 are just higher binned X38 chips.

So therefore, the DFI and ASUS X38 motherboards, you can cross-flash to the the X48 BIOS if you really must.

For what your doing though, the P35 would most likely be fine. I went for the X38 as when I get my new GPU, it's probably going to be ATI so Crossfire will be an option. Especially since you can mix ATI GPUs in Crossfire so it gives further options.

[Comixion]

P35 it is then.

[AKHandyman]

P35 it is then.
And it better be this one ...
DFI LanParty LT P35-T2R

Socket 775 LGA775 P35 ATX DDR2 3PCI-E16 3PCI SATA2 RAID

Chipset
INTEL® P35+ICH9R

CPU
Socket-775 for Intel Core 2 Quad, Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Extreme processor
Socket-775 for Intel Pentium® D
8 Phase digital PWM

FSB
800/1066/1333 MHz

Memory
128-bit Dual-channel memory architecture
4 240-pin DIMM sockets max 8GB
Supports unbuffered, single/double-side DDRII 533/667/800 DIMMs
Supports x8/x16, non-ECC and up to 1Gb DDR devices

Expansion Slots
1 x16, 1 x4, 1 x1 Graphic Slots with Crossfire and Physical
1 PCI Express x1
3 PCI

Storage
1 Floppy port
1 parallel IDE ports with up to 133Mbps UltraDMA
8 serial SATAII ports with up to 3Gbs
Support INTEL SATAII with RAID 0/1/0+1/5
JMB 363 supports 2 SATAII ports and 1 IDE port with RAID 0/1

USB
12 USB 2.0 ports

Audio
Realtek ALC 885 for 8CH HD audio in Bernstein card

LAN
2 GbE LAN by Marvell 88E8052+8053 with teaming
IEEE 1394

VT6307 with 2 IEEE1394 ports
Legacy IO
IT8718F-S

Hardware Monitoring:
CPU/System temperature sensing w/ overheating alarm CPU
overheating protection during system boot-up
12v/5v/3.3v/Vcore/Vdimm/Vnb/Vbat/5Vsb voltages sensing
Current drive CPU temperature sensing
3 Fan speed sensing and 1 Linear fan speed control for CPU fan

Back panel IO port
1 x PS2 mouse, 1 x PS2 keyboard
2 USB 2.0 ports, 1 x IEEE-1394
2 USB 2.0 ports, 1 x RJ45
2 USB 2.0 ports, 1 x RJ45
Other onboard connectors
3 USB header for 6 USB 2.0 ports
1 2x5-pin header for IEEE-1394 port
1 2x6 connector for Bernstein audio module
1 5x2-pin for IRDA header
1 4x1-pin FAN connector for CPU, 2 3x1-pin FAN for Chipset, and 3 for Chassis

BIOS features
8 Mb flash ROM
CMOS Reloaded
ACPI; PnP; Hotkey flash; Wake on Ring/LAN/USB/Keyboard and Mouse
Manageability
DMI 2.0, WOL by PME; WOR by PME; PXE2 Boot

Accessories
User’s Manual, Quick Installation guide
1 Parallel IDE flat cable, 1 FDD flat cable
4 Serial IDE cables with SATA power cable
Driver CD
1 Floppy diskette for RAID JMicron 363 and INTEL
I/O shield

Motherboard Form Factor and PCB Size
ATX Form Factor Motherboard,305x245 mm, 6 Layers, PCB in Black
DFI LanParty LT P35-T2R Socket 775 Motherboard Warranty

3 Year DFI LanParty LT P35-T2R Motherboard Warranty
1 Year for New Replacement from DFI

Better be no mo complaining after this!! :D

[Comixion]

No more whining from me.

[AlphaChicken]

What is the difference between the UT and the LT? I thought the UT was the better choice? No?

Maybe someone who knows the difference should explain to Comixion before he buys...

[Comixion]

Heres the comparison chart.
Other than that transpipe thingy, they look the same.
Except for $70
Can you imagine how many girlie magazines I can buy for $70?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010200280%2050001307&bop=And&CompareItemList=N82E16813136039%2CN82E16813136037

[AKHandyman]

There is no other differences other than the exotic cooling, which as Comixion just mentioned, the $70 difference will bring home some really decent smut ... :D

[owen]

Comixion, you wouldnt go far wrong with an Asus P5K...

[Comixion]

Comixion, you wouldnt go far wrong with an Asus P5K...

Don't confuse me anymore than I already am:p

This hunt has been emotionally draining.

[phill9800]

A guy from the other forum I visit, has just bought a DFI X48... I'm keepin an eye on what that manages :)

[AKHandyman]

Well, you won't need to go to the other forum much longer ... My DFI X48 board should be here today or tomorrow ... :D I'll be sticking my Q6600 in it for a few comparison tests and I'll post some stock benchies ... I held off flashing my X38 BIOS with the DFI X48 new BIOS because I want to see what the X48 board does stock ... ;)

I feel your pain Phill, about the Q9450 ... I have been up and down all over the Internets trying to find some outlet that has it ... everyone seems to be out of stock ... and I don't usually go the pre-order route with vendors I haven't dealt with before ... :-

[owen]

It seems that most purchases that you guys make are based on 'overclockability' of xcertain products. However, just how much of a difference does this make in games?

[AKHandyman]

Well, for starters, a faster CPU is going to make for faster number crunching in the algorithms of the game's coding and as such move that info to the video card for final display ... and if the video card is faster, then the game plays better ... Am I making any sense? I have this terrible cold and can't decide if I should go to the local clinic or just take more cold medicine ... I hate being sick ... :curse:

[Comixion]

Dont be a sissy, go to the doc.

Plus, if you die, who's gonna help me with this DFI board?:-0)

[AKHandyman]

Well, with an analogy like that ... guess I better get off the death bed and down to the Doc ... :p

[owen]

Do you have a touch of man flu AK?

[AKHandyman]

Boy do I ever ... :( but just got back from the doctor at our local clinic ... got me a shot in the butt, some heavy duty anti-biotic meds, and a bottle of cough syrup with codeine ... I'll be better in a couple of days ... :D:p

At least it's not Peemonia ... :)

[owen]

aye you'll be fine. just make sure you take full advantage of being waited on by your wife!

[AKHandyman]

aye you'll be fine. just make sure you take full advantage of being waited on by your wife!OMG!! ... even though she gave it to me ... I totally forgot about that ... that was a funny video ... she's at work now and I have to go get her this afternoon ... I should take full advantage of this situation ... :rolleyes: Hmmm?

[Comixion]

Let me know if you have any of that Cough syrup left.:D

[phill9800]

I thought she'd be doing things for you, not the other way around?!?!?!? Something's not right there mate :(

[AKHandyman]

Uhhh, there is a bit of role reversal going on here at the home-front, Phill ... I take care of all the household chores as The Computer Cabin is strictly a home-based business. Wifey works full time at the job that brings in steady coin and a retirement pension ... ;)

I actually like the arrangement and so does my wife ... :thumb:

But I could milk this sickness for all its worth ... :dev:

[phill9800]

I'm real glad to here it works mate :) If only my miss's saw it that way!! :p Mind you, we arent even living together just yet!! :lol:

[Comixion]

Well, I run things around my house.

The Vacuum, the dishwasher, the washing maching, etc etc

[AKHandyman]

And who said that men couldn't keep up house AND work ... argh,argh,argh !!! :D

[Comixion]

Do you have carpet in your house AK? I would guess with that kind of cold, hardwood floors would be nice and frigid on the bare feet.

[AKHandyman]

If you're inferring that I vacuum, you bet your sweet ass I do!! :woot: I also chop firewood, cook bacon, do the dishes, kill pesky squirrels, fold AND put away clean laundry, scrub the toilet, water the plants, and if I'm lucky, I'll be able to get in 2.34 hours of time on my gaming rig ... :D:p

So who do think the real Boss is? Huh?

If you guessed the wifey, ahhh, you're right :o

[Comixion]

What do you do with the "pesky" squirrels when you kill 'em.

Do they end up on the dinner table?

[yahooadam]

another jacked thread lol

Anyway, IMO, go with the DFI if you have any choice (dunno if you chose already)

My old NF4 DFI board still works fantastic, and quite frankly, my new Asus Whatever deluxe motherboard is total **** in comparison

I just wish you could buy DFI in the UK

[Comixion]

I went with the DFI and the 8800GTS with the E8400

and I just ordered it about 2 hours ago and its already shipped! Step 5

Newegg is on top of things.

[phill9800]

Did you go for the X48?

[owen]

I went with the DFI and the 8800GTS with the E8400

and I just ordered it about 2 hours ago and its already shipped! Step 5

Newegg is on top of things.

thats quick service!

So are you going to be standing in the window waiting for the nice delivery man?

[Comixion]

thats quick service!

So are you going to be standing in the window waiting for the nice delivery man?

lol...like a kid looking for the ice cream truck.

[AKHandyman]

Oh boy, I hate to see your face when the delivery man says your "package" melted ... :p

Can't ya tell I'm feeling better? :D

[phill9800]

I'm sure the poor delivery person might get knocked out cold, as its so excited to get the order through!! :p

[Comixion]

He won't even have to get out of his truck. He can just hand it to me..then GTF outa here!


Hey AK....ever see Ice cream trucks running around up there?

[owen]

Is the new graphics card and motherboard coming on this delivery Comixion?

[Comixion]

Yep.

I noticed when looking at the tracking details one (dont know which) is coming from Canada, the other California. But all scheduled to be here tomorrow in one 9lb package. How are they getting both in one box coming from 2 places?
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</td> </tr> <tr class="sumRowOdd"> <td>04/01/2008</td> <td>LOCATION SCAN[I]</td> <td>ONTARIO, CA, US</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr class="sumRowEven"> <td>04/01/2008</td> <td>UNLOAD SCAN[I]</td> <td>ONTARIO, CA, US</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr class="sumRowOdd"> <td>04/01/2008</td> <td>ARRIVAL SCAN[I]</td> <td>ONTARIO, CA, US</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr class="sumRowEven"> <td>04/01/2008</td> <td>DEPARTURE SCAN[I]</td> <td>BALDWIN PARK, CA, US</td> <td>
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[AKHandyman]

He won't even have to get out of his truck. He can just hand it to me..then GTF outa here!


Hey AK....ever see Ice cream trucks running around up there?We have a single ole guy who does a little business during the summer ... We do get some pretty hot temperatures during the summer here ... matter of fact, we get some hellacious thunderstorms ... lightning is the main culprit for the Interior's forest fires!! :scared:
So, yea, the ice-cream man has to peddle fast around here ... :D

[AKHandyman]

Yep.

I noticed when looking at the tracking details one (dont know which) is coming from Canada, the other California. But all scheduled to be here tomorrow in one 9lb package. How are they getting both in one box coming from 2 places?

You're screwed man ... two different deliveries ... :(

[Comixion]

You're screwed man ... two different deliveries ... :(

wtf?
http://www.pasthelp1.esmartweb.com/pissed.x

[Comixion]

We have a single ole guy who does a little business during the summer ... We do get some pretty hot temperatures during the summer here ... matter of fact, we get some hellacious thunderstorms ... lightning is the main culprit for the Interior's forest fires!! :scared:
So, yea, the ice-cream man has to peddle fast around here ... :D

Or get shot at....like on that cartoon.:p

[ElrichMeister]

LOL, theres a City Called Ontario over here in Cali, it went through the Ontario Airport, to get to Dallas hehe, so everything looks good.

[Comixion]

Ohhhhh, so that Ontario, CA. means California, not Canada.

duh.

I associated Ontario with Canada.

[jdrom17]

I associated Ontario with Canada.
And you always should :p

[AKHandyman]

You're screwed man ... two different deliveries ... :( Oh so maybe you're not screwed after all ... but you need to brush up on your Geography ... :p

Ohhhhh, so that Ontario, CA. means California, not Canada?

[Comixion]

I didnt know where Tok was either until the US Almanac added it a couple months ago when some of explorers stumbled upon it.;)

[AKHandyman]

I didnt know where Tok was either until the US Almanac added it a couple months ago when some of explorers stumbled upon it.;)
WTF?!! Now that doesn't make sense ... it's not even funny ... I vote to have this character banned ... not funny, not making sense, and obviously no sense of humor ... outright ban is what I say! ... http://pasthelp1.esmartweb.com/banned.x:D:p