xubuntu 8.10 on 4gb USB drive

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first of all i'm posting from this OS...firefox is easy to find, but i was wondering...what is the difference between ubuntu and xubuntu?? and all these complicated commands i see in help forums and stuff, what's with that?? is it the same relationship as msdos and windows? there must be a console or something... i'm gonna try to install counter-strike:source on this drive...

p.s. i read all these super complicated guides to install this onto a usb drive...but it was super easy...how long do you think this will work? like it's gotta stop working sometime right??


*edit* rofl i don't know how to install anything!!

- ok i got adobe flash installed...still can't get display driver installed...

To install the ATI Proprietary Linux driver using the Automatic option, follow
these steps:
1 Launch the Terminal Application/Window and navigate to the ATI Propri-
etary Linux driver download.
2 Enter the command sh ./ati-driver-installer-8-10-x86.x86_64.run to launch the
ATI Proprietary Linux driver installer.
Note: You must be logged in with superuser privileges (as root or with
sudo access) in order to successfully install the ATI Proprietary Linux
driver.

sounds easy but what is a terminal application and where do i type the commmand? and how do i get, or find out if i have super user priviledges??

[stlouis1]

k, for the ati driver, put it in the root of your home folder. the terminal thing always messed me up when i was new to linux, its one of those things everyone expects you to know

anyway, once its in the root of your home folder. do ctrl-alt-f5, that will bring you to vc5, virtual console i think it means, i dont know what terminal app is in xubuntu, so im going to have you do it that way. i know if you had kubuntu, you would have konsole in your app menu. not sure what xfce uses

now you'll be at a terminal login, put in your user name and password. its ubuntu so you should be allowed to sudo.

so then you should in logged in to the console, and mapped to your home folder already where the ati driver is, so now type
sh ati-driver-installer-8-10-x86.x86_64.run
once thats done, you should be able to type reboot

when prompted for password using sudo, use your account password, not root password. if it ways that your not allowed to sudo, then do ctrl+alt+f4 (i dont know how to log out of those consoles, so we'll switch to another one) and log in as root (the god admin), hopefully you remember what password you set for root

then you'll want to change to your other home folder
cd /home/yourusername
and then
sh ati-driver-installer-8-10-x86.x86_64.run


infact, for giggles, type "cd /ho" and then press tab, use the tab completion, its great if you haven't figured it out yet, you'll love it


btw, the difference with xubuntu, and ubuntu, is the desktop environment. xubuntu uses xfce, which is smaller, more lightweight. ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde

and honestly, if you want a good live distro for running on a usb key, check out faunos, or chakra, chakra is still alpha testing though

[Zefram]

I gotta say though, ATi is lacking in development on Linux driver.

It's only in the recent time that ATi cared about Linux community :p

Owh, and can Linux access and write on NTFS volume?

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very useful info, thank you stlouis....i still have like 1.5gb of space left over...if i use a faunos version will it be a whole lot smaller??

also, i can't boot into windows anymore, lol setup doesn't even find the drive...raid utility says it's there and bootable...i wouldn't mind just reinstalling, if not for that...i'm pretty sure i didn't do anythign to the drives during the xubuntu installation...in the part where you select the drive to install on, i selected lexar (volume label) i don't see how i could have mucked anything up...but at least i can boot into linux...i guess

[stlouis1]

did you maybe install the grub boot loader to the mbr of your windows drive? maybe just need to edit grub or something.......maybe grub was installed without support for raid, gives you a couple things to verify, its hard for me to say with little info

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if i knew what you were saying i might have more info :P


sh: can't open ati-driver-installer-8-10-x86.x86_64.run



duh...ati's installation instructions are for older version...the file i have is ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run is linux enough like windows that i could make it easier by renaming to say, "fun.run?" lol and run it from the terminal still??

btw... Applications>Accessories>Terminal in xubuntu

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infact, for giggles, type "cd /ho" and then press tab, use the tab completion, its great if you haven't figured it out yet, you'll love it

lol!!! Display all 1966 possibilities? (y or n) uhm...maybe :)


I gotta say though, ATi is lacking in development on Linux driver.

It's only in the recent time that ATi cared about Linux community :p

Owh, and can Linux access and write on NTFS volume?

i dunno, my array doesn't exist right now, when i was first wondering what the hell linux was a about i was able to play mp3's that were on an NTFS notebook drive on USB from a version of knoppix on a CDrom


and appearantly css is 3gb :(

[stlouis1]

linux has full read and write support for ntfs, its had it for a while now.

and yes, u should be able to rename the ati driver installer and run the shorter name.

but say the file is in /home/myname/ati-driver-installer-8-10-x86.x86_64.run

you type type /home/my (press tab to complete) and start typing sh ati and his tab to complete again, assuming its the only file that starts with ati........seriously though, get used to the tab completion, when you do go back to windows, and need cmd, you'll hate it for being so primitive, trust me, i do

as far as you're array, you might start by looking up what kind of linux supprt there is for your raid controller, be the best place to start i think, you might just need to install a module and modprobe it

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my drives existed when i booted from live cd...that's where i formatted the usb drive to fat32 before installing, in this process i'm pretty positive i didn't touch the array...the volume label for the usb flash drive is "lexar" by default...i dunno, cause after that was reboot install to usb hdd and boot from it...and no 154gb volume anywhere to be found...windows recovery couldn't find em' either...i recreated it and i just reinstalled...but it look poopy and has no internet connection, and it was easier to reboot to linux...the drive was in my pocket all day :)

**edit**after clean xp pro install on array, still can't see it in xubuntu*edit*

i do want to check into raid support, cause then could i not just save a partition, and install ubuntu on that?? i'm a linux noob, but another partition with any OS would dual boot and prompt for selection, wouldn't it?? damnit i love mhz and games, but all this software stuff is very interesting...usb thumb drive is pretty neat though, but not great for speed, i get the odd lag spike...but i always thought about the same thing but sata interface, and just like connect multiple little flash drives right on the mobo like system ram, and have a raid controller that works like that...

[stlouis1]

i've been trying to find your answer to that on the ubuntu wiki, or forum even, i can't find it. BUT.........


i think you're problem is with mkinitcpio settings, you might need to enable the raid hooks and build a new kernel image. this (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mkinitcpio) page will give you some general info on the issue there, but the steps will be different under ubuntu. so you'll need to find the distro specific info, but i think thats your problem

i just kind of clued in 10 minutes ago, i should have thought of that earlier

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i can apply these settings to the installation on the usb drive, and be able to manipulate files in windows??

[stlouis1]

should be able to........ :eek:

it'll depend how its installed on the usb drive, if its booting like an iso image off the drive, it wouldnt because the img wouldn't be writable. but if you got ati drivers working, it should be a standard type install, but just on a usb drive, so i say, you should be able to do that

i'd try to find you some more specific info, but im racking my brains on getting a message board up and running on my server right now, problems with mysql.....gawd. but hopefully this helps narrow your search. you might try the ubuntu forums, shouldnt have a problem getting help there, huge user base